Re: Removing ALL_ views from users

From: <Mayen.Shah_at_lazard.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:06:17 -0400
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Dennis,

In my case auditors had objected PUBLIC grant to few of the ALL_ views (ALL_SOURCE, ALL_VIEWS and few more). Revoked privilege from PUBLIC for these views. Only problem or issue came up was some of developers using SQL Navigator could not look at their own source code. Asked them to get source code using USER_ views from sqlplus.

I did not have any need for ALL_ views as I use DBA_ views.Instead of me fighting with auditors, I simply asked developers to have their manager get approval from auditors. That resolve political battle.

It was on solaris, 10.2.0.4

Thanks
Mayen

"Dennis Williams" <oracledba.williams_at_gmail.com>
Mar 31 2009 05:03 PM

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Re: Removing ALL_ views from users

Mayen,  

Just so I understand you correctly, you took a list of each of the ALL_ views, and revoked each of them from PUBLIC? Any database problems afterward? Which database version?  

Thanks,
Dennis

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM, <Mayen.Shah_at_lazard.com> wrote:

I had similar request from auditors. I lost half the battle. Instead of dropping ALL_ views, I revoked PUBLIC privilege to satisfy auditors. When developers complained, I asked them to get approval from auditors...never heard back.

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Mayen

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Re: Removing ALL_ views from users

Thanks Andrew,   

That was pretty much my first response. Unfortunately this has gone further than that. What I'm asking is:   

     Has anyone removed access to any of the ALL_ views?   

I'm guessing that since the views are PUBLIC, that would need to be revoked first.   

Thanks,
Dennis

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com> wrote:
You are talking to an ignorant auditor who thinks the all views show everything in the database. If he seriously thinks that knowing other usernames is a security risk, go ahead and revoke that one, then explain to him that the all* views actually just show objects that each user has access to, not everything in the database. I ran into this before, and the problem was the guy was trained in accounting, not oracle.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Dennis Williams < oracledba.williams_at_gmail.com> wrote: List,   

Some security auditors are stating that the ALL_ views are a security risk and are recommending that I revoke them. In particular, they are pointing to ALL_USERS as offering a hacker useful information. My guess is that the ALL_ views are granted to PUBLIC. Has anyone had this requirement? Has anyone successfully revoked this access?   

Dennis

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