Re: Certifications don't count! (from a good test-taker)
From: Nuno Souto <dbvision_at_iinet.net.au>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:25:18 +1000
Message-ID: <484E103E.7010606@iinet.net.au>
>> A couple of years ago I got very frustrated when dealing with Oracle
>> Certifications. On both occasions I needed Oracle to verify that a
>> certification was valid (i.e. the person claiming to have a
>> certification actually had one) but Oracle went out of their way to
>> make verification difficult. When I needed to verify my certification
>> to a perspective employer I got some mail stating that verifying
>> certifications may take up to 2 weeks and the verification ended up
>> taking a 8 business days. The other time I wanted to verify someone's
>> claimed OCM and Oracle said that we needed permission from the person
>> we were interviewing to start the verification process and that
>> verification would take up to 2 weeks--I was suspicious about the
>> initial OCM claim so this person was filed in the circular filing
>> cabinet because of all the hassle.
>>
>> I have also had trouble proving to Oracle certification folks that I
>> have taken the required OCP Oracle class.
>>
>> With Microsoft, I believe that the person with the certification can
>> give you a number and you go to a Microsoft web site and are able to
>> verify any certification claims very quickly.
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:25:18 +1000
Message-ID: <484E103E.7010606@iinet.net.au>
Hmmm, given that there are around 200 there and it is
worldwide, I'd say basing interview selection criteria
on solely the producing of an OCM is a bit short-sighted...
Who knows, there might actually be good dbas out there
who don't give a fig about paying through their noses
for a "certification"?
Cheers
Nuno Souto
in (finally!) sunny Sydney, Australia
dbvision_at_iinet.net.au
Dan Norris wrote,on my timestamp of 10/06/2008 1:44 AM:
> For verification, you can just look online at > http://www.oracle.com/technology/ocm/ > > If they aren't listed there, they may still be an OCM, but if they're on > the page, they're an OCM since Oracle Ed maintains that page. As far as > I know, OCM credentials have no expiration, though at some point, > they're probably outdated and not much help. > > Dan > > daniel koehne wrote:
>> A couple of years ago I got very frustrated when dealing with Oracle
>> Certifications. On both occasions I needed Oracle to verify that a
>> certification was valid (i.e. the person claiming to have a
>> certification actually had one) but Oracle went out of their way to
>> make verification difficult. When I needed to verify my certification
>> to a perspective employer I got some mail stating that verifying
>> certifications may take up to 2 weeks and the verification ended up
>> taking a 8 business days. The other time I wanted to verify someone's
>> claimed OCM and Oracle said that we needed permission from the person
>> we were interviewing to start the verification process and that
>> verification would take up to 2 weeks--I was suspicious about the
>> initial OCM claim so this person was filed in the circular filing
>> cabinet because of all the hassle.
>>
>> I have also had trouble proving to Oracle certification folks that I
>> have taken the required OCP Oracle class.
>>
>> With Microsoft, I believe that the person with the certification can
>> give you a number and you go to a Microsoft web site and are able to
>> verify any certification claims very quickly.
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