Re: ASM - hardware mirroring vs. Oracle mirroring

Krish, I don't think that's possible when your only means of getting data to tape is NetBackup. tar/cpio could not get to the tapes in that particular case.

Steve, you could say that, but as is so often the case, things started out in one way and somewhere down the line circumstances changed necessitating the archival and space had already been provisioned and there was no money for more disk (hence the archiving in the first place).

Finn

On 4/15/08, krish.hariharan_at_quasardb.com <krish.hariharan_at_quasardb.com> wrote:
>
> In the spirit of "not because I should, but because I could", I suppose
> you could use a named pipe (unix) and dbms_file_transfer to move that from
> ASM to Tape and could, for good measure, to justify this cumbersome method,
> throw in compress/gzip in the pipeline.
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> -Krish
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> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:
> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Finn Jorgensen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:01 AM
> *To:* paul.baumgartel_at_credit-suisse.com
> *Cc:* Don Seiler; Jared Still; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> *Subject:* Re: ASM - hardware mirroring vs. Oracle mirroring
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>
> Here's a problem I ran into with ASM a while back.
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>
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> I was exporting large partitions as a means of backing them up for
> historical purposes and the intent was to put them on tape. Unfortunately my
> setup had almost all space allocated to ASM so very little filesystem space
> existed. expdp will still export to a ASM disk group so that part was
> covered, but now I had a export file in an ASM diskgroup and no way to use
> OS commands to back it up. RMAN doesn't allow for backing up export files,
> so I was left with no way to get the file straight from ASM onto a tape and
> no filesystem space to put the export file on. I was stuck.
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>
> Finn
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> On 4/14/08, *Baumgartel, Paul* <paul.baumgartel_at_credit-suisse.com> wrote:
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> That's OK, and as you saw I was wrong anyway!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtseiler_at_gmail.com [mailto:dtseiler_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Don
> Seiler
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: Baumgartel, Paul
> Cc: Jared Still; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: Re: ASM - hardware mirroring vs. Oracle mirroring
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> Ah I missed the "in" when I read it the first time. Pardon me.
>
> Don.
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Baumgartel, Paul
> <paul.baumgartel_at_credit-suisse.com> wrote:
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> >
> > I didn't say that RMAN doesn't work with ASM. I said that "there are
> > certain operations in, e.g., RMAN, that aren't supported with ASM".
> This
> > was based on co-workers' comments regarding a database migration to a
> new
> > server.
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