Re: Oracle Application Server Admin

I think Dan's both right and optimistic.

If the focus is fusion middleware I entirely agree - I suspect that by the time FMW really exists it will be a somewhat advanced from where we are now.

If it's app server though I suspect there are a fair few app server installs that aren't FMW and will be around awhile. Essentially J2EE app servers in oracle shops. The integration of bea into app server in say 2 years time is just so far off it's rather irrelevant

my view anyway.

Niall

On Jan 23, 2008 7:58 PM, Dan Norris <dannorris_at_dannorris.com> wrote:

> I agree with Niall and others, but also add that any deep investment in
> learning a lot about Fusion Middleware's current incarnation seems risky as
> I (and many others) suspect that the BEA acquisition, once complete, will
> change the Fusion Middleware picture yet again--dramatically.
>
> That doesn't mean we can sit back and wait, but maybe hedge your bets and
> avoid going from ground zero to FMW expert until we all see the updated
> roadmaps post-BEA. For now, I'd probably stick with going from ground zero
> to FMW operator and then consider investing further in learning the "new,
> improved" FMW once we see what that looks like.
>
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com>
> To: Brandon.Allen_at_oneneck.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:40:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Oracle Application Server Admin
>
> Just to second, or eighth or whatever, the other comments.
>
> Yes - it's a dba job
> Yes - it's a pain.
> Yes - it has little upside.
> Yes - it requires understanding coffee language.
> Yes - the docs are poor.
>
>
> On the plus side -
>
> those sorts of things make it interesting.
> there aren't many good consultants on it so it adds to job security.
> once it runs it tends to run until something changes (42 days).
>
> so commiserations and congratulations.
>
> Niall
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 10:31 PM, Allen, Brandon <Brandon.Allen_at_oneneck.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I've recently been enlisted as the admin for Oracle App Server 10gR2 and
> > every day I'm realizing more and more how much effort this is going to
> > require for setup and ongoing support. I have no prior App Server
> > experience so this is no minor task for me to pick up. This is our
> > company's first experience with OAS so we're trying to figure out whose
> > responsibility it should be ultimately and I'm just curious what other shops
> > typically do. Are any of you DBAs also being asked to take on OAS admin
> > (similar to an "Apps DBA"), or do your shops have dedicated staff for this
> > role, or another group that takes this on in addition to their primary role?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brandon
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