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RE: Reorg to put columns in order

From: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) <Thomas.Mercadante_at_labor.state.ny.us>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:09:42 -0400
Message-ID: <ABB9D76E187C5146AB5683F5A07336FF017357F5@EXCNYSM0A1AJ.nysemail.nyenet>


And thus, a new Urban Legend has begun!

Too bad. Because of their refusal to do a little research, it costs you a Sunday of work. I hope you get paid a little something extra!


From: Zanen van, J (Jacob) [mailto:Jacob.van.Zanen_at_rabobank.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM
To: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: Reorg to put columns in order

Thx for all the replies  

Confirmed I am not crazy :-)  

The political war has been fought (by my manager mostly ) and lost. this 1 minute job became a sunday job as it can not be done during business hours.    

Brgds    

Jack


From: Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR)
[mailto:Thomas.Mercadante_at_labor.state.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 1:06 AM
To: Zanen van, J (Jacob); oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: Reorg to put columns in order

Jack,  

It sounds like you are running into more of a political issue rather than a technical one.  

Two ways to deal with it:  

Do what they wish, but explain that you need "migration time" to accomplish the task whenever they add a column. Tell them it takes half a day because it may take this long on a large table to create the new table and bring all the data over to it.  

Explain that this is totally unneeded because BO does not care (according to Kerber & Naim). But this will force you into learning how to do this to show them.  

Either way, you have some work to do.  

Tom


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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Zanen van, J (Jacob) Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:00 AM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Reorg to put columns in order

Hi All,

I'm having a bit of an issue with our designers/developers for our so called "datawarehouse"

Columns are added to tables every so often based on requirements from the business. They however insist on doing a reorg to get the columns in a certain order so when they pull them up in BO the columns show up in an order that makes sense to them. I have raised my doubts about this procedure as it takes a 2 second job and squeezes it in a 7 hour job.

I can see from a chained/migrated row point of view that there might be a valid reason for it but since they have always done it this I see no way for me to find out how bad this is going to be. I suspect for most of these tables it won't make much difference as they are not filled with data for historical records AFAIK.

My solution for them was to create a view on top of the table but they rejected the idea and insist this is the way to go.

Anybody have any insight for me.

Thnx

Jack


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