RE: Early 11g Advanced Table Compression #'s

>>this is how oracle has taught to systematically think! Yes, we are all mind numbed Oracle robots. They will eventually get to you too.

>> We have a group that claims "it all depends", who is fighting burleson
>> who publishes heuristics (which are fallible, of course). This "it all
>> depends" is trivial, end of the story: if you wanna bark, you are
>> welcome to do it how many times you want).
Dogma, in and of itself, can be dangerous in that it blinds people to possibilities and ties them to a specific system. I do not find myself a dogmatic adherent to either camp. In fact, I rather choose not to get involved in those disputes for a number of reasons.

Perhaps, if you think you have a better way, you might present it here, in this forum, for all to see. I'm just an old country boy from Oklahoma, so I could care less for academic words like epistemically, and would rather prefer that someone actually spend some time showing me the way to a new understanding in the form of something written and concrete that will help the community at large.

Can you point me to a white paper that you have written or some other document that will provide for me some insight into a way to do my job better? Since I'm not an economist or a physicist by trade (and I don't play one on TV), I'm at a loss to make the huge intellectual leaps that you have obviously made to translate the methodologies used in those fields to the Oracle database world. I'm quite open minded and would love to see your insight and brilliance presented to the world as a whole. I'm sure that given your insights into this new world of systematics that Oracle tuning would be turned on it's head.

>> Horrible, epistemically speaking, amounts to being FALSE: this is how
oracle has taught >> to systematically think! No, Horrible, epistemically speaking, would amount to UNKNOWN (or perhaps NULL if you prefer). The word "Horrible" describes nothing as far as I'm concerned, except perhaps opinion, and certainly has nothing to do with adding or acquiring any kind of knowledge or evidence with regards to a system (except perhaps considering opinion or conjecture to be a fact). There is nothing concrete about the word Horrible, thus assigning it an equivocal value of FALSE would be incorrect.

Again, I await your white paper or presentation with breathless anticipation.

RF

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of Pedro Espinoza Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:41 AM To: oracle-l
Subject: Re: Early 11g Advanced Table Compression #'s

You responded to my post, which in turn was a response to a poster, who called his tests horrible. Horrible, epistemically speaking, amounts to being FALSE: this is how oracle has taught to systematically think!

Well, forget instrumentation, but you are dealing with a black box, a turning machine whose state machine is not known to the users.

Systematic explanation is not so much about finding what factors cause problem, but one that tells exact relationship between these factors; if some cases dont follow this relationship, one can also postulate a set of hypotheses that are protective belts, and which explain these negative cases. IN other words, it is like asking for the state machine of the black box turing machine that oracle is, or find the matrix representation of that black box.

We have a group that claims "it all depends", who is fighting burleson who publishes heuristics (which are fallible, of course). This "it all depends" is trivial, end of the story: if you wanna bark, you are welcome to do it how many times you want).

There is no need for me to lecture on systematics. There are books, journals, around that precisely deal with the growth of human knowledge--whether it is in the area of atomic physics or in the area of economics.

On 8/18/07, Robert Freeman <robertgfreeman_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

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