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Re: vmware & Oracle

From: Mark Brinsmead <>
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:02:06 -0600
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It seems I should have read the whole thread here before leaping in with my last post.

Sorry everybody -- it seems most of that ground has already been covered.

Sadly, I have to agree with Kevin here, and will even go one step farther. I actively distrust any licensing information provided (directly) by the Oracle sales organization. My experience has been that they commonly answer complex questions incorrectly. And more importantly, the "Entire Agreement" clause of the OLSA specifically disavows anything said (or written) by an Oracle sales rep. Or by anybody else, for that matter.

There are a LOT of misconceptions about licensing Oracle. Some of which are my own, it seems. :-)

Bottom line: if somebody inside Oracle answers a question about licensing for you, you should probably ask them to either refer you to the supporting text in the OLSA, or start the process to make a formal amendment to the license. Either way -- be prepared to read the license (and amendment) yourself.

On 7/20/07, Closson, Kevin A <> wrote:
> Yet I know of people who were told by Oracle Sales that the
> misconception was actually true. As with most things in Oracle
> licensing, it really is about who you know. I think that has eroded the
> sanctity of their license far more than their association with Linux.
> If they can't be consistent in what they say, people are going to
> gravitate towards the most generous interpretation they can find.
> ...again, I'm not the voice of Oracle here by any means. I only speak as
> a person that has had the covering of Oracle Partner Network so my views
> are set that way. As an aside, I wouldn't listen to a Sales guy telling
> me that something is free. That would seem weird.
> --

-- Mark Brinsmead
   Senior DBA,
   The Pythian Group

Received on Sat Jul 21 2007 - 22:02:06 CDT

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