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RE: vmware & Oracle

From: Baumgartel, Paul <paul.baumgartel_at_credit-suisse.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:11:14 -0400
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I don't know, but maybe that Web browser they produced a few years ago was one of those "additional programs"!

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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Job Miller Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:55 PM
To: andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com; neiloverend_at_gmail.com; oracle-l Subject: Re: vmware & Oracle

the one that always confuses me is:  

We may include additional programs with an order which may be used for trial purposes only. You will have 30 days from the delivery date to evaluate these programs. Any use of these programs after the 30 day trial period requires you to obtain the applicable license. Programs licensed for trial purposes are provided "as is" and we do not provide technical support or any warranties for these programs.  


 

what additional programs does an order include that are subject to this part that aren't available via OTN and would fall under the other license terms (one single prototype part)?

Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Well, if the fine print is in disagreement with the large print, courts will usually hold the large print as binding. Especially when the terms are as confusing as Oracle has made them. Of course, you have to be willing and able to find them court.

On 7/20/07, Neil Overend <neiloverend_at_gmail.com <mailto:neiloverend_at_gmail.com> > wrote:

After reading the actual licence terms (which I should have done earlier :-) the development licence does sound much more restrcitive than I thought, The phrase

"All software downloads are free, and each comes with a Development License that allows you to use full versions of the products only while developing and prototyping your applications."

does sound a bit misleading to me, when compared to the details

> "You may not:
> [ text deleted]
> - continue to develop your application after you have used it for any
> internal data processing, commercial or production purpose without
> securing an appropriate license from us, or an Oracle reseller;"

I'll bet there are a lot of people who don't actually read the details (me included), i should be more careful in future, good job licencing's not part of my job role :-)

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