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Re: How to refresh the complete database using the export dump?.

From: Robert Freeman <>
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
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It's Sunday today, so perhaps the lesson today should be one of humility. Are the words Humility and DBA truly antonyms? I don't think so.....

Me thinks, perhaps. To refuse to post here is an act that not only hurts yourself, but hurts the many other people who read but don't post here. I also think it's a rash over-reaction and borders on selfish. If this were a community that was flame ridden, I'd understand, but it's not. So, perhaps some humility is in order.

If you look at your question, which was a pretty basic question, it does somewhat imply that you had not read the freely available documentation. Many of us here (including myself) feel like that the first step to a problem like this should be to at least crack the documentation and try to figure out the problem for yourself. Failing that, then you post here.

That is a sign of respect for the community, and a sign that you have made some effort to solve your problem. Remember, we all work for a living here. Many here are consultants who typically BILL for our time to answer questions. Here you get it for free. That is something that I think needs to be respected too.

Perhaps there is a more gentle way to point out this fact, but to be honest when you are heads down doing lots of real work AND replay to online posts, sometimes tact will end up being a victim. It's nothing personal, it's just the way things are.

I think if you had posted something that said, "I have a database at work that is down and I need to get an import loaded... I'm a new DBA and I don't know how to do this and I need help fast, please!" then your answers would have been fast, furious and forthcoming because you were clearly in trouble. There are many here that have a heart and would empathize with your plight. In that case, I doubt the words "RTFM" would have ever be spoken. They might, after the fix was done, but I don't think during any crisis.

This is a close community, with a number of people that *care*...and that I call friends and have for a long time. They also realize that it is better to teach one to fish than to fish for them if at all possible. This is also a community, as Dan pointed out, that is based on written communication which is notoriously bad when it comes to interpretation of emotion and content.

Also, as with any community, there may be those who are less patient than others (I'm not saying this was the case here at all) as we are all human beings here. We all have good days, bad days and days in between. To judge a community based on one or two experiences is, again, a great disservice.

So, I think my point is this: many of us here love what we do. Many of us here love to help. It's a grave mistake to stop being a part of this community because of a little squabble.


Robert G. Freeman
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