Return-Path: Delivered-To: 2-oracle-l@orafaq.com Received: (qmail 19840 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2007 12:30:51 -0500 Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net (HELO turing.freelists.org) (206.53.239.180) by 69.64.49.119 with SMTP; 15 Jul 2007 12:30:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28B02711DD5; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11468-02; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85AA5710DCC; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7EDD712B50 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07370-06 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 726C471282E for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k22so1438700waf for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:49:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fZHnv1e1JUSaPC7vEBPpooGzhWritbB4lKzDGDoysi82CjqF+sOL/r78dh+wHTsJShlmLZCJTopfPZ8w8PKQWkNqr/Pmmq+0WFU3tml/rW8kRqU1Uqj/x1UpD+9PN3toD0V7i9fAMzjByCoGYqfXBCcf41HGuwr2sVrb2t4nsqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=c0OwubO1LMJvrtEr8M+CilKTd8l1JL5w3d93hBXPWuHPztf84A5UkpK67Qpad59okvYDVcuVvwLqCsBS2bK+Nl61EbREaruZ4WvYzJTWXmTmK6Fhetqz4GMzyXRojKCc71vRoT4RxGQnCRNwxCT2YV28iRLUffizCHAg81S4wzY= Received: by 10.114.170.1 with SMTP id s1mr3409742wae.1184518180809; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.130.5 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:49:40 -0600 From: "Bryan Wells" To: "Dan Norris" Subject: Re: How to refresh the complete database using the export dump?. Cc: niall.litchfield@gmail.com, oracle-l In-Reply-To: <903837.13986.qm@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41268_9005020.1184518180772" References: <903837.13986.qm@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-archive-position: 50891 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bunjibry@gmail.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: bunjibry@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: oracle-l X-List-ID: oracle-l List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain ------=_Part_41268_9005020.1184518180772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my apologies to all. I will not post to this site anymore to save you all the grief i cause. I guess it was my feeling the RTFM comment was very inappropriate in a forum full of experts and those wishing to be experts. So i have learned my lesson. Thanks for the awesome mentoring in the past. On 7/15/07, Dan Norris wrote: > > Ahhh...the beauty of the written word--so many ways to (mis)interpret the > intention of a few words. > > My advice: In cases where there may be some "grey," always give the > benefit of the doubt to the author. > > It's situations like these that remind me why there's no substitute for > face-to-face meetings. > > Enjoy your Sunday (or whatever day it may be in your timezone). > > Dan > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Niall Litchfield > To: bunjibry@gmail.com; oracle-l > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:57:53 AM > Subject: Re: How to refresh the complete database using the export dump?. > > Actually I thought Mark's reply spot on. Not just RTFM nor a straight > answer because there's a good chance that exp is being used > inappropriately. Rather a nudge in the right direction and an invite > to think. That's mentoring in my book - though I may have been getting > it wrong of course. > > On 7/14/07, Bryan Wells wrote: > > Hey Mark, I thought this forum was for learning/mentoring not > har*ass*ing. > > I take this site very seriously as i am *always* learning and needing to > > learn. I have been a DBA by title for about 3years, and i consider > myself a > > newbie, as im sure others on this forum might. i believe your comments > > could have been left at "Try the Utilities manual". Take it easy. you > were > > new once! > > > > On 7/13/07, Mark Brinsmead wrote: > > > > > > Well, since nobody else has said it, I suppose I might as well... > > > > > > RTFM. > > > > > > Try the "Utilities" manual, which covers Export/Import quite > thoroughly. > > > > > > In the meantime, I'll give you a hint... Your solution will probably > > > include: > > > imp FULL=Y FILE=my_export.dmp ... > > > > > > > > > By the way, if you don't know how to "restore" them, you may want to > ask > > > yourself why you are making exports to begin with. There is an > excellent > > > chance that they do not do what you think they do... > > > > > > > > > On 7/10/07, Anant wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Can you please suggest me how to import the whole database from the > > > > export dump?( I mean the whole database). > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ann > > > > -- > > > > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > -- Mark Brinsmead > > > Senior DBA, > > > The Pythian Group > > > http://www.pythian.com/blogs > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bryan S Wells > > Cell: 303.532.9879 > > Email: bunjibry@gmail.com > > > > > -- > Niall Litchfield > Oracle DBA > http://www.orawin.info > -- > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > > > -- Bryan S Wells Cell: 303.532.9879 Email: bunjibry@gmail.com ------=_Part_41268_9005020.1184518180772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
my apologies to all.  I will not post to this site anymore to save you all the grief i cause.  I guess it was my feeling the RTFM comment was very inappropriate in a forum full of experts and those wishing to be experts.  So i have learned my lesson.
 
Thanks for the awesome mentoring in the past.
 
On 7/15/07, Dan Norris <dannorris@dannorris.com> wrote:
Ahhh...the beauty of the written word--so many ways to (mis)interpret the intention of a few words.

My advice: In cases where there may be some "grey," always give the benefit of the doubt to the author.

It's situations like these that remind me why there's no substitute for face-to-face meetings.

Enjoy your Sunday (or whatever day it may be in your timezone).

Dan


----- Original Message ----
From: Niall Litchfield < niall.litchfield@gmail.com>
To: bunjibry@gmail.com; oracle-l < oracle-l@freelists.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:57:53 AM
Subject: Re: How to refresh the complete database using the export dump?.

Actually I thought Mark's reply spot on. Not just RTFM nor a straight
answer because there's a good chance that exp is being used
inappropriately. Rather a nudge in the right direction and an invite
to think. That's mentoring in my book - though I may have been getting
it wrong of course.

On 7/14/07, Bryan Wells < bunjibry@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Mark, I thought this forum was for learning/mentoring not har*ass*ing.
> I take this site very seriously as i am *always* learning and needing to
> learn.  I have been a DBA by title for about 3years, and i consider myself a
> newbie, as im sure others on this forum might.  i believe your comments
> could have been left at "Try the Utilities manual".  Take it easy.  you were
> new once!
>
> On 7/13/07, Mark Brinsmead < pythianbrinsmead@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, since nobody else has said it, I suppose I might as well...
> >
> > RTFM.
> >
> > Try the "Utilities" manual, which covers Export/Import quite thoroughly.
> >
> > In the meantime, I'll give you a hint...   Your solution will probably
> > include:
> >     imp FULL=Y FILE=my_export.dmp ...
> >
> >
> > By the way, if you don't know how to "restore" them, you may want to ask
> > yourself why you are making exports to begin with.  There is an excellent
> > chance that they do not do what you think they do...
> >
> >
> > On 7/10/07, Anant < shastry17@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Can you please suggest me how to import the whole database from the
> > > export dump?( I mean the whole database).
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Ann
> > > --
> > > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > -- Mark Brinsmead
> >    Senior DBA,
> >    The Pythian Group
> >    http://www.pythian.com/blogs
>
>
>
>
> --
> Bryan S Wells
> Cell: 303.532.9879
> Email: bunjibry@gmail.com
>


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Oracle DBA
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