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Re: Back and a Question

From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:16:55 +0100
Message-ID: <7765c8970608161016u17490161v307f6d490c55522e@mail.gmail.com>


Well perhaps by applying their professional skills? How after all do you determine the security risks of a course of action? Your example is an interesting one. Here is some data validly entered in a system according to documented functionality. It cannot be changed in the system and so a non-functional person is required to change it. Now whatever could be at risk here?

On 8/16/06, ryan_gaffuri_at_comcast.net <ryan_gaffuri_at_comcast.net> wrote:
> if it doesn't state in SOX that developers can't have access to production
> data, how do the auditors determine what is a violation?
>
> Not having access to PROD data is a real problem for ETL systems that
> recieve external data feeds. You can have alot of validation checks when you
> get the file, but you will never catch everything and sometimes you get bad
> data. You need to people to check it.
>
> I guess the other option is to 'promote' a developer to systems
> administrator and put him on the production team so he can look at the data?
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Nuno Souto <dbvision_at_iinet.net.au>
>
> > From where I stand, it's exactly like Ryan described:
> > we got SOx-audited last year and again this year and in both
> > occasions access to production by developers came up as an
> > absolute no-no and something we simply cannot allow.
> > Which I tend to agree with, BTW. ;-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > from sunny Sydney
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting David Aldridge :
> >
> > > Tsh, is there any lie that those operations people won't tell in order
> > > to keep us out of their sandbox?
> > >
> > > Seriously though, I don't think that SOX is that detailed, and I don't
> > > believe any STIG is either. It sounds like that rule is more along the
> > > lines of an _interpretation_ of the regulations, or a quoting of the
> > > regulations to justify a rule (depending on your degree of cynicism).
> > >
> > > ryan_gaffuri_at_comcast.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I did DOD befoer this. I am doing financial now. The federal
> government
> > > > actually passed security laws for financial companies as part of
> > > > Sarbanes-Oxley(SOX). I was told by operations that one of the rules is
> > > > that development cannot have access to production data. That is a
> > > > problem for production support when you get data issues.
> > --
> > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
> >
> >
>

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