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Re: Oracle's relationships with expert DBAs (and the rest of us mere mortals)

From: Niall Litchfield <>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:25:42 +0100
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On 5/31/06, MVE <> wrote:
> --- Niall Litchfield <> wrote:
> > On 5/31/06, MVE <> wrote:
> > > What edge does Linux on a PC has over Solaris on a Sun Box?
> >
> > Adequate performance at a hugely reduced cost. Windows has this as well.
> As
> > a rule of thumb, yes I know!, you can now run at least a hundred
> concurrent
> > sessions of an erp app on hardware and software costing less than
> GBP4000
> > (oracle license excluded). Is it cast iron guaranteed reliable and
> > available, well no. Do you need it to be - probably not.
> >
> > Niall Litchfield
> That hardware cost "reduction" is irrelevant when you figure the rest of
> the
> cost to run a fairly decent size shop on ORACLE.

well define fairly decent sized. I'm firmly in the < 5000 employees < 300 concurrent user space here.

And when a shop has close 1 MIL in license and support fees the lousy 8K are
> not even a drop of water in the bucket.

well I just priced a 4-way opteron based system from HP with 4gb of ram (plenty for the type of customer I had in mind) at just over 5k us dollars. without any corporate deal. Again the list price of Oracle EE + support for this (don't need to buy EE here but lets just inflate things anyway) is 166k USD. again no corporate deal.

of course I could just buy a 4 way sun 440 for 24k and license Oracle at the same 166k.

so on a spend of 190k I just saved 19k or 10%. people like this. especially when they realize that a 4 way opteron likely beats an 8 way sparc 3 and they just saved 187k out of 280 odd.

And then 4 years later there's the mighty APPS upgrade and here you are on a
> fluid-always-changing platform (Linux), shoot in the foot, having to work
> twice
> as hard for what? For a lousy 8K reduction in the initial cost of
> hardware
> that is already obsolete anyway?

Now I agree that linux is a far too volatile base, but compared to apps? - come on. So long as you don't do legal patches, security patches and rollups you are probably in the same ball park.

Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA

Received on Wed May 31 2006 - 17:25:42 CDT

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