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Re: ODBC connection - extra statements being run

From: Norman Dunbar <>
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:12:17 +0000
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Morning John,

Norman Dunbar.
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>>> "Fedock, John (KAM.RHQ)" <> 02/08/06 08:46pm >>>
>> When a user connects to my HP-UX 10g database from Excel via ODBC
and runs a SQL select statement joining 2 tables, a 10046 trace clearly shows >>that statement running quickly, then another mysterious statement running, which is basically a select from the 2 tables with no join. This causes it to >> run for more than 10 minutes. The original statement runs < 2 second in SQLPLUS. Can anyone explain?

I had a similar problem, without the mysterious query though, using ODBC from Access to Oracle.

The access query did the equivalent of :

SELECT stuff
FROM table_a, table_b, table_c
WHERE table_a.something contains "some text" AND <other joins here>;

ODBC fiddled about and discovered that the column being searched was a LONG in the database. I presume it figured out that you cannot do a LIKE on a LONG in Oracle so it simply dropped the where clauses off and pulled back a cartesian join of all three tables in the query. I presume the intention was to do some sort of filtering out at the Access end rather than on the big, powerful, Oracle server end.

Unfortunately, the three tables were three of the biggest in the database and a three way cartesian join resulted in something like 27 thousand million billion rows being 'returned' to Access. The cost of the statement was something like 2567 G in the explain plan. The Access user decided that the response time was too long and closed Access down. This left the query still running at the Oracle end.

After a week and a half running (honest) Oracle started to sort the results and the box simply stopped - the TEMP space was being absolutely hammered.

My advice is simple :

"ODBC - just say NO!"

HTH Cheers,

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