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From: Herring Dave - dherri <>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:15:12 -0500
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AMEN!   I find it pretty easy to skip/filter out any basic questions I don't want to bother with. And, I find it quite funny how someone is whining that all the simple questions, which could have been easily found in manuals, are wasting his time, only to drone on and on about his time being wasted. Its hard not to start posting simple questions just to keep him fired up.  

Connor, all that you've listed makes complete sense and I hope that you and others with a deep understanding of Oracle continue to participate in this forum. I try to spend a few hrs. per week, usually on my own time, to checkout every initial email per topic. Sure, I might not learn anything from but 1 out of 500 emails, but that one item I do pick up is pretty valuable to me.  


Dave Herring, DBA

Acxiom Corporation

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[] On Behalf Of Connor McDonald Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:34 PM To: oracle-l
Subject: Re: DATAFILE?? now "RTFM"  

I have no problem with pasting a link to the documentation as a response, but I disagree vehemently with "RTFM" as a response

"RTFM" has the subtext to the poster that they were either

  1. too lazy to look up the manuals
  2. too stupid to look up the manuals

independent of whether or not that was the intention of your "rtfm" response. Its become far too emotive a term - the moment you see "RTFM" in a thread, you rarely see any further sensible or technical discussion follow it.

Of course, maybe a poster IS a lazy sod, or has been swimming at the shallow end of the gene pool - that still does not make it a responders right to assert either. "RTFM" is a responders way of saying "I could answer your question but I choose not to make the effort".... which is far better handled by simply not replying at all.

I'd hate to see Oracle-L degenerate into the farcical slanging match that has become..

Connor McDonald

"Semper in excremento, sole profundum qui variat"
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