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Re: RTFM replies

From: Tim Gorman <>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:10:55 -0600
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For my own part, personal issues have forced me to withdraw from all but the most immediately essential work activities. Unfortunately, that leaves the ORACLE-L list as a seldom-indulged pleasure, similar to Oracle users groups including my own beloved RMOUG. I've been on this list for a couple years, and have peaked and valleyed over that time in terms of participation -- I suspect the same is true of everyone. I really hope you'll all be here as well when I can pay attention again. For the meantime, I'll just lurk, browse infrequently, and delete messages en masse. As a famous general once remarked, "I shall return". But not right now...

Best wishes to all...


on 10/20/05 11:49 PM, Mladen Gogala at wrote:

> I am receiving 65 messages per day, very few interesting ones among them. Most
> of
> these messages are sheer clutter, usually saying things like "here is my
> query, why
> is it slow". The net result is the fact that this list is becoming less and
> less
> useful for me. I seldomly see Tanel Poder, Nuno Suoto, Mogens Norgaard, Tim
> Gorman,
> Cary Millsap or Jonathan Lewis. Personally, I am willing to respond to
> questions and
> I frequently do so. If this list becomes a pile of worthless spam that
> needlessly
> wastes my bandwidth then I'll do the same thing as Nuno Suoto: unsubscribe and
> switch
> to c.d.o.server. I am aware that the most of the list will breathe a sigh of
> relief
> if that happens but I am reluctant to give up a great tool that this list once
> was,
> just yet. So, I fully intend to continue decreasing what I see as a worthless
> junk by
> all means at my disposal, unless told otherwise by the administrator. If that
> happens,
> I'll simply unsubscribe, after 10 years of presence on this list.
> What gets me started are questions that can easily be answered by reading
> manuals.
> I don't believe that this is an online manual. To keep the peace, please
> respect me
> and do not post trivial questions. Then I will respect you and will not post
> replies
> which belong to this group as much as the trivial questions that instigated
> them.
> Namely, I do consider rude expecting other people to do your homework for you.
> In P2P
> world, people that do not contribute but just pump out stuff are called
> "leeches".
> Frequently asking trivial questions that are answered in the literature is
> usually a
> sign of similar parasitic attitude and unwillingness to invest even minimal
> personal
> effort. I am a member of this list for 10 years, much longer then most of the
> people
> asking trivial questions. I shall not waste my time any longer if 95% of the
> topics are
> started by questions that can trivially be answered by a minimal personal
> effort. So far,
> I am not willing to give up. This may change soon. It's up to you. On my part,
> I can
> only promise to put in additional effort and imagination to thinly veil the
> RTFM phrase,
> much to the delight of the target.

Received on Fri Oct 21 2005 - 11:13:39 CDT

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