From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Wed Sep 21 19:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j8M0jtvr021681 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:45:55 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j8M0jk6H021669 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:45:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B52E71EEEE5; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32344-03; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2A3DE1EEF3F; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:45:32 -0500 (EST) From: "David Kurtz" To: Subject: RE: So what seminar do you go to?? Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5BF17.0B9E8BA0" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: <003d01c5bf0b$896f5ed0$61f5a8c0@TerrySutton> X-archive-position: 25785 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: info2@go-faster.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: info2@go-faster.co.uk X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-mailscan-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscan-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5BF17.0B9E8BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or, you could go to UKOUG 2005 in Birmingham (UK) on 31st October-2nd November. There are the usual 12 Oracle streams, 3 of which are dedicated to server technology. This year, there are also two dedicated PeopleSoft & JD Edwards streams. There is an OakTable day on the Sunday. The agenda is on the website http://conference.ukoug.org/. This conference is organised by the user group, not Oracle's sales and marketing department. Speakers include (to name but a few, and in alphabetical order so I don't offend anyone) Lex de Haan, Tom Kyte, Jonathan Lewis, Anjo Kolk, Connor McDonald, Mogens Norgaard, Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha, Graham Wood There is lots of performance related material, but if you don't use good design, best practice and common sense there is some non-performance related stuff too. If your head doesn't hurt by the end of this there is always beer (we do use beer). regards _________________________ David Kurtz UKOUG Unix SIG Chair -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org]On Behalf Of Terry Sutton Sent: 22 September 2005 01:20 To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Re: So what seminar do you go to?? OOW is a waste of time (and $). There are a few good presentations there, but it's mostly Oracle sales stuff, and now with PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, and Oracle Apps added, it's worse than ever (36,000 people this week). IOUG is much better. RMOUG is close to as good as IOUG (and much cheaper). And Hotsos is far and away the best Oracle conference on this continent. The only downside of Hotsos is it's performance-centric. If you're interested in non-performance-related learning, you may be disappointed. Also, your head can hurt at the end of the day from learning so much. --Terry Hi, There are a handfull of Oracle seminars that are offered and as I can only go to one of them I thoulght I'd pause the question to you guys?? (By you I refer to DBA's) If you could only attend one seminar, which will it be. Hotsos, OOW, IOUG or other?? TIA Yuval. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you, oracle-l@freelists.org, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. [clavin.webloyalty.com] ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5BF17.0B9E8BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or, you could go = to UKOUG 2005=20 in Birmingham (UK) on 31st October-2nd November.  There are the = usual 12=20 Oracle streams, 3 of which are dedicated to server technology.  This = year, there are=20 also two dedicated PeopleSoft & JD Edwards streams.  There is = an=20 OakTable day on the Sunday.  The agenda is on the website http://conference.ukoug.org/.  = This conference is organised by the user = group, not=20 Oracle's sales and marketing=20 department.
 
Speakers include (to name but = a few, and=20 in alphabetical order so I don't offend anyone) Lex de Haan, Tom = Kyte,=20 Jonathan Lewis, Anjo Kolk, Connor McDonald, Mogens Norgaard, Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha, Graham Wood
 
There is lots of performance related material, but if you don't = use good=20 design, best practice and common sense there is some non-performance = related=20 stuff too.  If your head = doesn't hurt=20 by the end of this there is always beer (we do use beer).
 
regards
_________________________
David = Kurtz
UKOUG Unix SIG Chair
-----Original Message-----
From: = oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org=20 [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org]On Behalf Of Terry=20 Sutton
Sent: 22 September 2005 01:20
To:=20 oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: Re: So what seminar do you go=20 to??

OOW is a waste of time (and $).  = There are a=20 few good presentations there, but it's mostly Oracle sales stuff, and = now with=20 PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, and Oracle Apps added, it's worse than ever = (36,000=20 people this week).  IOUG is much better.  RMOUG is close to = as good=20 as IOUG (and much cheaper).  And Hotsos is far and away the best = Oracle=20 conference on this continent.  The only downside of Hotsos is = it's=20 performance-centric.  If you're interested in = non-performance-related=20 learning, you may be disappointed.  Also, your head can hurt at = the end=20 of the day from learning so much.
 
--Terry
Hi,
 
There are a handfull of = Oracle=20 seminars that are offered and as I can only go to one of them I = thoulght I'd=20 pause the question to you guys?? (By you I refer to=20 DBA's)
 
If you could only attend = one seminar,=20 which will it be. Hotsos, OOW, IOUG or=20 other??
 
TIA
 
Yuval. 
 
 

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