From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Fri Aug 26 12:12:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QHCEKK032116 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:12:14 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7QHCAIP032104 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:12:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0AD5E1E6C47; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06140-05; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7A9611E6D7A; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:12:02 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5AA60.F900C018" Subject: RE: Table growth - disk sizing Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:09:52 -0400 Message-ID: <5A14AF34CFF8AD44A44891F7C9FF41050395BA5C@usahm236.amer.corp.eds.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Table growth - disk sizing Thread-Index: AcWqYMDNvL2G2pOHTKC4NihkznFSCQAAB0gQ From: "Powell, Mark D" To: "Oracle-L" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2005 17:09:53.0716 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9F60740:01C5AA60] X-archive-position: 24566 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mark.powell@eds.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: mark.powell@eds.com X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-mailscan-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscan-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5AA60.F900C018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, as many TB as will fit in the cabinet that they are trying to sell you. LOL =20 -- Mark D Powell -- ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:02 PM To: MGogala@allegientsystems.com Cc: Ranko Mosic; Christian.Antognini@trivadis.com; tomday2@gmail.com; Oracle-L Subject: Re: Table growth - disk sizing I disagree. Your storage vendor can certainly be relied on to give you=20 an accurate prediction of your storage requirements for the next 5 years or so. Jared On 8/26/05, Gogala, Mladen wrote:=20 What I was trying to tell you is that the goal of your project can be qualified as BS. You are trying to predict the future based on number of transactions, instead of the historical growth information, like everybody else. That will not work. Allow me to jovially suggest coin toss, tea leaves, position of the stars or entrails of Oracle sales people=20 as the next best methods.=20 The only reliable extrapolation is linear approximation, based on historical=20 data. Even this gives you only short time reliability. Everything else is BS.=20 --=20 Mladen Gogala=20 Ext. 121=20 --=20 Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5AA60.F900C018 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, as many TB as will fit in the cabinet = that they=20 are trying to sell you. LOL

-- Mark D Powell --

From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org=20 [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jared=20 Still
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:02 PM
To:=20 MGogala@allegientsystems.com
Cc: Ranko Mosic;=20 Christian.Antognini@trivadis.com; tomday2@gmail.com; = Oracle-L
Subject:=20 Re: Table growth - disk sizing

I disagree.

Your storage vendor can certainly be = relied on=20 to give you
an accurate prediction of your storage requirements for=20 the
next 5 years or so.

Jared

On 8/26/05, Gogala,=20 Mladen <MGogala@allegientsystems.com= >=20 wrote:

What I was trying to tell you is that the goal of = your project=20 can be qualified as BS. You are trying to predict the future based on=20 number

of transactions, instead of the historical growth = information,=20 like everybody else. That will not work. Allow me to jovially suggest=20 coin

toss, tea leaves, position of the stars or entrails = of Oracle=20 sales people
as the next best = methods.=20
The only reliable extrapolation is linear = approximation,=20 based on historical
data. Even this gives = you only=20 short time reliability. Everything else is BS.

--
Mladen Gogala =
Ext. 121

--
Jared=20 Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl=20 Evangelist

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