From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Mon Aug 15 08:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7FDZkJM031503 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:35:46 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7FDZIIP031456 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:35:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2873E1DD84C; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04099-10; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A08381DE69C; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:26:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050815232040.04f6f748@pop.mail.yahoo.com.au> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:24:28 +1000 To: mcdonald.connor@gmail.com, DMcGibbon@tollnz.co.nz From: Tony Jambu Subject: Re: Anyone with experience with MMOG and databases? Cc: Oracle-L@freelists.org In-Reply-To: <5e30486205081417077e18ea6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6538192653987098968@unknownmsgid> <5e30486205081417077e18ea6d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_305526333==.ALT" X-archive-position: 23960 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tjambu_freelists@yahoo.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-To: tjambu_freelists@yahoo.com.au X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-mailscan-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscan-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=2.63 --=====================_305526333==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dougie & Connor That is why the game needs very quick persistence data store. Thus the quest for quick short I/Os. They will probably be 'bulk' actioned. ta tony At 10:07 AM 15/08/2005, Connor McDonald wrote: >Which comes back to one of my favourite quotes. > >A past client implemented a public-facing system (100% Java) which had >all the bells and whistles for the end-user - whizz bang graphics, >heaps of automation of the regular tasks they had to do etc, but >terrible usage and understanding of the underlying Oracle database. >We pointed out that data integrity was sortta important but they >forged on and went live anyway... > >Net result - front page of the newspapers with people getting other >people's information, sent to the wrong address, with the wrong >details etc etc etc... > >In the subsequent crisis meeting I asked: > >"What percentage data integrity do we have?" > >Funny... I always thought it was a boolean. > >-- >Connor McDonald >=========================== >email: connor_mcdonald@yahoo.com >web: http://www.oracledba.co.uk > >"Semper in excremento, sole profundum qui variat" >-- >http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l --=====================_305526333==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dougie  & Connor

That is why the game needs very quick persistence data store.
Thus the quest for quick short I/Os.  They will probably be 'bulk' actioned.

ta
tony

At 10:07 AM 15/08/2005, Connor McDonald wrote:
Which comes back to one of my favourite quotes.

A past client implemented a public-facing system (100% Java) which had
all the bells and whistles for the end-user - whizz bang graphics,
heaps of automation of the regular tasks they had to do etc, but
terrible usage and understanding of the underlying Oracle database.
We pointed out that data integrity was sortta important but they
forged on and went live anyway...

Net result - front page of the newspapers with people getting other
people's information, sent to the wrong address, with the wrong
details etc etc etc...

In the subsequent crisis meeting I asked:

"What percentage data integrity do we have?"

Funny... I always thought it was a boolean.

--
Connor McDonald
===========================
email: connor_mcdonald@yahoo.com
web:   http://www.oracledba.co.uk

"Semper in excremento, sole profundum qui variat"
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