Re: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?

• Original Message ----- From: Helen J Mitchell To: klange_at_ppoone.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?

  I disagree with this opinion about "pretty much lets me knows that you can take a test".

  For me taking the test verified to me that I had a broad scope of knowledge.

  More importantly, it did make the difference for me in today's competent job market.

  Even more important is that this information will assist you in making numerous process improvements.

  Any DBA will have the experience of agitated users and nervous upper managers.

  Those situations are commonplace and you will learn to diffuse them ... part of the daily job.

• Original Message ----- From: Kevin Lange To: oracle-l Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?

    A certificate in this prety much lets me know that you can take a test, it     does not tell me a damn thing about if you can do the job.

    Just because you can read a book and regurgetate the information back up     onto a piece of paper does not mean that you can handle the day to day     workings of a DBA or handle users in a manner that does not a) Piss them off     to no end or b) Give them everything they want and the expense of everyone     else. It also does not show me that you can handle the high pressure oh so     fun situation of having 100 upper management types calling you at 5 am     wondering why the production database is down and how long it is going to     take you to put it back up. And it surely does not show me that you know     how to handle the 100 other things that can go wrong that are just not     covered in anything but life experience.

    Experience over Certification any day.

    My order of hiring is :

1. Experience + Certification.
2. Experience Without Certification.
3. Newbie + Certification.
4. Newbie Without Certification.

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    From: Juan Carlos Reyes Pacheco [mailto:juancarlosreyesp_at_gmail.com]     Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:55 PM     To: jim_kennedy_at_mentor.com
    Cc: gogala_at_sbcglobal.net; davewendelken_at_earthlink.net; oracle-l     Subject: Re: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?

1. I can tell that definitively I had got a very positive benefit from certification.
2. If I would have had a tutor previously to introduce to few key topics, maybe I woudln't need the certification.
3. Even after the certification I need Tom Kytes advice.
4. The certification is only +1 in the evaluation. Not only to hire the dba, else when you are working as a contract business is important to show your personnel has a certification.
5. The certification, when there is a problem, gives you more credibility.

    What do you think?
    If I'm a doctor and I cut your leg, because I say you can die, and I     don't have a certification in that speciality, or if I have, which     will be the difference?

    So if you certify better for you and for your boss.

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