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Re: testenvironment aix or Linux

From: Leandro Guimaraes Faria C. Dutra <ldutra_at_toyota.com.br>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:49:31 -0300
Message-ID: <OF09562172.C47CBE66-ON0325705B.0049E743-0325705B.004C591A@toyota.com.br>

oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org gravou em 2005-08-12 10:14:12:

> Debian vendor? I thought that Debian vendor is FSF (GNU)?

        Not at all, in fact while there are lots of affinities and collaboration the respective organisations (Debian's SPI and GNU's FSF) parted ways a long time ago when Debian decided to include proprietary software, which it still does to this day.

> Who shouldI ask for?
> Stallman or Raymond?

        ESR has nothing to do with neither Debian nor GNU. He was behind OSI, but now mainly speaks to himself as he's painted himself on a corner.

> I'm sure that something like "Richie, your
> distro is not recognizing
> my FireWire card, whadda I do?" would eventually lead to problem
resolution.

        While I will make a point of answering your doubts, your attitude is so negative I doubt you really want to learn anything. Besides, if you really wanted you'd checked this information by yourself, because the community is very open and well documented. Everything I told you besides the reason of the SPI-FSF split is public knowledge, and Debian even links to consultants and vendors .

> > That just shows how little you know about Debian -- or how
> > dependent you are on Oracle.

> I am an Oracle DBA. I use Oracle to pay the bills.

        So am I, but I like to know something else.

> Yes, I am dependent upon it. I used to
> depend on VAX/VMS but since the demise of DEC, I am using various
> versions of Unix: SCO,
> AIX, Solaris, HP-UX and Linux. My favorite one is HP-UX.

        Really? Why?

> I don't know much about Debian.
> They haven't motivated me to learn it, so I am blissfully ignorant
> of them. I prefer it to stay that way.

        So why make a point of speaking about what you do not know?

> > > Very better :). When I said "support for Red Hat is the best", it
> > > mean't "Oracle's support
> > > for RH is the best". Ite missa est, Red Hat is the best.
> >
> > Nice argument.
> >
> > Specially when Oracle depelops (used to?) on SuSE.

> Why should I care about it? RH is definitely the most popular
> commercial distro and is definitely
> supported by Oracle.

        I just wanted to know why on Earth is Oracle's support for RH the best, and pointed to a reason why I'd be surprised if that was the case.

> > What are you talking about? Novel just bought SuSE. They
have
> > years in GNU/Linux, even more years in OSs and they have now one of
the
> > most popular RPM distros.

> One of the two most popular RPM distros. No medal for the second place.

        HP-UX is the second or third more popular Unix, yet you like it better.

> b) That ALSA is the way to go and that I should use ALSA and forget
> my application, the one that I have paid for.

        That is precisely the point. When you run proprietary software on GNU/Linux, you are on your own -- actually your proprietary vendor has to support you. OSS is just such a vendor, like Oracle. If they support SuSE, use their support.

> I could hear his face redden over the phone. Needless to say, I will
> never use SuSE again.

        I am not a SuSE fan, but I do think you were in the wrong here. I wouldn't trust you after what you revealed about yourself in this thread.

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