From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Thu Aug 4 11:53:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j74GrRAx018941 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:53:27 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j74GrIIP018911 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:53:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 167561DC5B5; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22975-06; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8333C1DCDD4; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:52:00 -0500 (EST) Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.326 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: RE: dba mgt woes Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:51:30 -0700 Message-ID: <04DDF147ED3A0D42B48A48A18D574C45023613D3@NT15.oneneck.corp> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: dba mgt woes thread-index: AcWZEuhdg/zrIhsnQYGxqxg2RAAYTQAAK/uA From: "Allen, Brandon" To: , Cc: , X-archive-position: 23403 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Brandon.Allen@OneNeck.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: Brandon.Allen@OneNeck.com X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-mailscan-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscan-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 I wholeheartedly agree with the balance of work and play, and finding work that you enjoy - not just to make money, when possible (not everyone can be so fortunate). I also find it interesting that some people think their company owes them a big thank you, as if we are donating our time or something. Remember, they are paying us, so perhaps it should be the other way around and we should thank them for many years of employment - that is as long as they are paying fairly and treating us well. Regards, Brandon -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org]On Behalf Of Gints Plivna Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:36 AM To: bbellows@usg.com Cc: GJohnson@gam.com; oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Re: dba mgt woes Hmm I assume these types could be united. I personally love technologies and especially Oracle and even more especially developing some nice apps with it. BUT. I'm also making sure my employer doesn't employ me too much. He pays me for 8 hours. Extra hours means extra money or at least (if these are sometimes and rare) big thanks. I'm learning many things also not only in my working hours but that's just because I like them, not because I feel obliged to do that. Life can be lived only once, there are also other things apart from work. I'v seen several people that worked very hard, worked past their official pension years and lastly when they were laid off, earth didn't collapse, our country stayed in the same place and even many times their company didn't say them very big Thank you after so many years of work. I don't want be like that. Gints On 8/4/05, Bellows, Bambi wrote: > Bang on! > > I always said there are people in this field because they love the > technology and there are people in this field because it's an easy way > to make a nice living. I'm in the first category and naturally think > the people in the second are a shallow bunch of twits. The folks in the > second category naturally think that I am a nerd and not fit to teach > their children how to dress. > > Twits. > > Best wishes, > Bambi. -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l