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RE: dba mgt woes

From: Leandro Guimaraes Faria C. Dutra <>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:16:29 -0300
Message-ID: <> gravou em 2005-08-04 12:12:04:

> >...He went into the "generation gap" issue. Was fascinating.
> Being employed at a job also entails a "value system".
> It is this:
> "Provide value to the company and get paid in return."
> If this is inconsistent with their "value system", let them pursue their
> worthwhile but different life goals on someone else's nickel.

        Good point.

        Having lived in (and thought about) both First World, developing and Third World countries, and witnessed work attitudes and generation gaps in all of them, I could add that people who focus so much on things like bombs and virii and so on to explain the generation gap are possibly doing what most people do anyway, and thus add no value: glossing over unconfortable truths.

        The truth at the bottom is that the First World is so rich, and the Third World is so corrupt (and therefore people with good jobs are relatively rich too), that youngsters don't feel they need to do any real effort. Older people still exert themselves not because they are not rich, but because they had what you may call old-time educations teaching them to exert themselves for the sake of the work or of society or of their families or whatever, not just to get rich.

        The real difference now between developing countries and the First World isn't the amount of work or effort, but higher-quality education and lower corruption and instability levels in the First World. As the decadence of the First World progresses, education quality decreases and corruption creeps in, so I fear new Dark Ages in the long-term future. For more info on this, a good (if pseudonymical) analyst is pseudo-Spengler,

        Threatening dismissal could possibly make a rich (relatively to his wants and needs) youngster exert himself, but perhaps he's too spoiled. Or perhaps, because of job market protectionism (read immigration restrictions) he probably can find another just as good job, or even just a good enough job.

Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
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Toyota do Brasil Ltda    
São Bernardo do Campo, SP                        BRASIL

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