RE: a really non-technical question, help?

 >The last time this topic came up on c.d.o.s., someone from
>Oracle kind of, somewhat, acknowledged that the licensing
>language is confusing.

you thaink that is confusing, try deciphering Oracle's term "clusterware"...put on your magic decoder ring

:-)

PS. I know the definition... but it does confuse a lot of people...nearly as bad as to think that anything running on a cluster that doesn't come on an Oracle CD is somehow 3rd-party clusterware...

PPS. sorry for changing the topic mid thread

Kevin Closson
Chief Architect, Database Solutions
PolyServe
www.polyserve.com

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>Read the OP's question -- it specifically mentions VCS. I
>believe the problem is that many people have not had the
>experience of running Oracle under a Veritas Cluster Server
>(VCS) or HP-UX Service Guard type of cluster, so when they
>read Oracle's terminology, it doesn't completely register --
>they see "standby" and they (incorrectly) think "Data Guard".
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>In fact, under VCS or Service Guard, there really isn't such a
>thing as a "primary" node and a "standby/failover" node -- any
>service/group can normally run on any node, although there is
>often a default node to start-up on. An administrative choice
>at a given site may be to always run all services/groups on a
>particular node, but it is not in any way the same thing as a
>"primary" and "standby" in the database sense, nor is it
>inherent in the VCS or HP/UX Service Guard model.
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>Mark Bole
>http://www.bincomputing.com
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>Carel-Jan Engel wrote:
>> Hi Kevin, and all other posters of this thread,
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>> There are a lot of rumours around this, as you can see: you get many
>> different answers.
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>> First of all, let's fix the confusion about cluster based and
>> replication/recovery based 'standby systems'. Data Guard and
>> active/passive standby (Poor Mens Rac) are different items.
>>
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