RE: a really non-technical question, help?

My understanding is that you don't have to license the standby server, UNLESS you bring it online more than X times per year, with X being a negotiated number. I believe it defaults to 5, and online means open to everyone for all purposes.

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Closson Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:45 PM
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Subject: a really non-technical question, help?  

sorry, folks, but I though as many production DBAs as are on this list, I might be able to get an answer to this question. What I need to know is how Oracle licensing works on a hot-standby (e.g., a VCS failover node).

In this case I'm thinking that the failover node will never be running oracle *unless* the primary is dead. Seems like a single system worht of CPUs to license in my mind...any feedback ?

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>[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Ron Rogers
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:27 AM
>To: jrsmiley_at_gmail.com; richard.ignizio_at_paetec.com;
>rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us
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>Subject: RE: RMAN backups
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>Ruth,
> You are correct. a level 0 backup for me takes 14 min at 10.4
>Gig disk used and the level1 backups takes 14 min at 3.7 Gig.
>Ron
>
>>>> "Ruth Gramolini" <rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us> 06/21/05 1:05 PM >>>
>John,
>
>Unless something has changed with 10g, and incremental backup
>doesn't actually save much time. Rman still has to read the
>block headers to see if the block needs to be backed up. It
>mostly saves space on disc if backing up to disk.
>
>Correct me if I am wrong!
>Ruth
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>Subject: Re: RMAN backups
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>
>Backup times with RMAN are going to vary greatly depending
>upon the hardware and how many blocks need to be backed up.
>Even a very large database can be backed up incrementally if
>very few blocks have changed since the last backup with RMAN.
>
>What might be a better yardstick is backup rate. The fastest
>RMAN backup rate I've seen was published by Amazon a few years
>back. They attained 2TB / hour.
>
>John Smiley
>Technical Management Consultant
>TUSC, Inc.
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