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I bounced the initial post off Kevin Closson at Polyserve, and he
replied as follows:
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>>i've seen some references that oracle does not certify oracle=20 >>products running on polyserve and that the support for=20 >>"Unbreakable Linux" is therefore not provided. i believe this=20 >>is because polyserve requires a custom kernel to run.
This is a long answer to a topic that is actually wider than PolyServe. The key is knowing what "Unbreakable Linux" is.
PolyServe contains Kernel Loadable Modules (KLM). Just loading a=20 non-open-source KLM into the kernel voids "Unbreakable Linux".=20 That includes certain Fiber Channel HBA drivers, certain=20 MPIO drivers and so on. The only software allowed to be closed source is Oracle for "Unbreakable Linux".=20
PolyServe is not going to open source our products. Like Oracle,
we have a great deal of proprietary value add and a business model
that does not favor open sourcing. The value-add is exactly why HP=20
and Novell resell (and OEM in the case of HP) PolyServe - and provide
support=20
for it along with Linux. Not all problems can be solved with Open
Source.
That is the very reason customers are still choosing Oracle instead
of MySQL for certain IT needs.
So the answer to this question is to first understand "Unbreakable
Linux".=20
The following points are based on quotes from this URL:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/htdocs/oracleonlinux_faq.html#6
"Oracle customers running RHEL, SLES or Asianux, can call Oracle=20 directly for any Oracle or OS issue. Oracle will diagnose the issue=20 and will work with the OS partner to address the operating system=20 issue as needed."
2. Even with Unbreakable, customers still need OS support from the OS provider.
"customers must have a current support contract in place with Oracle.=20 In addition, Novell and Asianux customers must maintain current support=20 contracts with those distributors, and Red Hat customers must maintain=20 a Standard or Premium support contract with Red Hat to be eligible for=20 Unbreakable Support."
3. Choosing to deploy outside the "Unbreakable" model does not render
Oracle products unsupported
"If a customer recompiles the kernel or uses third-party software that
modifies=20
the Linux kernel, they are no longer eligible for Unbreakable Linux
Support=20
and can't receive direct Linux OS technical support from Oracle. In
these=20
cases, Oracle will continue to support Oracle products on the certified
Linux=20
distributions."
The PolyServe website contains a good deal of Oracle specific content.
The=20
value propositions are all outlined in solution briefs stored there.
Kevin Closson
Chief Architect, Database Solutions
PolyServe
</quote>
hth
Connor
On 6/7/05, Marquez, Chris <cmarquez_at_collegeboard.org> wrote:
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