From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 5 15:34:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j35KYbV7007659 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:34:37 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j35KYaem007655 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:34:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 42308914CF; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20576-04; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BB65691357; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:32:33 -0500 (EST) From: ryan_gaffuri@comcast.net To: davewendelken@earthlink.net, oracle-l@freelists.org Cc: david wendelken Subject: Re: anyone use java EJBs? Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:30:44 +0000 Message-Id: <040520051930.23233.4252E7640006CE4400005AC12200734748079D9A00000E09A1020E979D@comcast.net> X-Authenticated-Sender: cnlhbl9nYWZmdXJpQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 18076 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ryan_gaffuri@comcast.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: ryan_gaffuri@comcast.net X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: There is one terrific J2EE book that voices concerns about Entity Beans and says to use database features. I have not finished it yet, but from what I have read its outstanding. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764543857/qid=1112729342/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-9252735-7815156?v=glance&s=books >From what I have been told most J2EE developers don't even know that a JSP gets translated into a java servlet and then compiled by the web/app server. They don't have a clue what really goes on and its their discipline. -------------- Original message -------------- > > Ryan, > > In general, most of the java programmers I've talked to about this are totally > clueless as to concept. > The commit/rollback full transaction concept just isn't in their mindset. > There are, of course, some very talented exceptions to that. :) > > Your concerns are the same ones I have. > > > -- > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l