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Re: Oracle on VMS?

From: Paul Baumgartel <>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:24:01 -0400
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I agree wholeheartedly. VMS is a great OS but it's not the way to go.

What's troubling me now is how much Linux costs! Red Hat is quoting me $2100 a year per server, with support. We pay a whole lot less for Windows, without support, but with the availability of per-incident support at $245 a pop. As much I want to go to Linux, I'm going to have a hard time selling the senior exec. management that they should shell out $17k a year for the OS on 8 servers when Windows costs about a fifth as much. Sigh.


On Apr 3, 2005 5:59 PM, Ellis R. Miller <> wrote:
> Paul,
> Experienced with Oracle on VMS: VMS is a great OS, Oracle talent with
> experience on VMS is less than zero and support via Metalink is
> non-existent.
> In short, a great OS (Beta was better than VHS, too) but not practical.
> There are a number of arguments regarding the importance of
> integration/consolidation to single platform, etc. but a few crude yet key
> points:
> (1) Do a search on for VMS talent. Add Oracle + VMS. Now, do same
> search for Linux or Linux + Oracle.
> (2) Oracle is running all of their internal applications on Linux almost
> entirely. In fact, long term Linux has more momentum than Solaris or HP-UX,
> both of which are well-established Oracle-friendly Operating Systems with an
> abundance of talent.
> (3) OS/2 was a great operating system and look where it got IBM;)
> (4) Aside from the economics of integration, in general, consider the
> benefits of running Oracle on Linux on Dell hardware, etc. One of the real
> selling points of Linux is the Total Cost of Ownership with a particular
> emphasis on cheap, scalable, supportable hardware.
> In the end, one of the strongest arguments TRULY is Oracle's support via
> Metalink and the associated knowledge base including this list.
> VMS has great clustering, etc. and, in general, I was very impressed by
> it...too bad Beta never caught on and now with DVDs who cares;)
> Ellis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: []
> On Behalf Of Paul Baumgartel
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:47 PM
> To: Oracle-L (E-mail)
> Subject: Oracle on VMS?
> I'm soliciting backup for a recommendation NOT to migrate our
> Oracle10g databases to a VMS cluster that our parent company is
> installing in a new data center. I'm thoroughly convinced that it's
> not the way to go (I'm planning to use RAC on Linux), but the more
> ammunition I have, the better. Do we have any VMS users who can
> relate their experiences regarding release availability, technical
> resources at Oracle, etc.? On the flip side, do we have anyone on the
> list who has chosen VMS for a new Oracle deployment?
> Thanks,
> --
> Paul Baumgartel
> --

Paul Baumgartel
Received on Sun Apr 03 2005 - 20:27:48 CDT

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