From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 14 16:11:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2EMBSCR017479 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:11:28 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2EMBSem017474 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:11:28 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AE2B38659A; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28638-07; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F169864EA; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:09:48 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: Need suggestion on Hibernate+Oracle Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:07:52 -0800 Message-ID: <7F24308CD176594B8F14969D10C02C6C3B7EAA@exch-mail2.win.slac.stanford.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need suggestion on Hibernate+Oracle Thread-Index: AcUmxiMBBCuBOPhISlO686b8lXDNHACExk8Q From: "MacGregor, Ian A." To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2005 21:07:56.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[E53CABA0:01C528D9] X-archive-position: 17275 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ian@slac.stanford.edu Precedence: normal Reply-To: ian@slac.stanford.edu X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: I was browsing a blog today, = http://www.jroller.com/page/dsmith/20050314. It has a link to an = artcile entitled, "Hibernate sinks! Potential lawsuits upcoming?" I did not read the article. It's in an Australian publication which = requires you to resister. Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center ian@SLAC.Stanford.edu=20 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org = [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Zhai Jingmin Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:36 PM To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Need suggestion on Hibernate+Oracle Hi,list: The developers of our new project chose JBoss+Hibernate as middle = tier,and the backend maybe take single instance or RAC of Oracle 10g.I = think hibernate is a good choise for developers,but maybe not for DBA.I = want to know what will be the impaction to oracle if using Hibernate or = Toplink kind of tools,from the standpoint of Oracle DBA? And what should = I consider during physical design and maintenance phase? =20 Some SQL tuning chances will be lost as most SQLs will be created by = these tools,right? =20 Tom said the Hibernate "scared" him,because "transaction handling = outside the database" and "abstract the database to a bit bucket", what = do you think? =20 And what do you think about "midder tier java object cache"?Is it really = reliable? =20 Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks in advance! Zhai Jingmin Oracle DBA =09 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!=20 -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l