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RE: License to use Pro*C

From: Goulet, Dick <DGoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 12:07:45 -0500
Message-ID: <4001DEAF7DF9BD498B58B45051FBEA65022E09F6@25exch1.vicorpower.vicr.com>


Well, I'm no legal guru, but Pro*C is sold as a development tool, not part and parcel of the rdbms. You can very easily run the rdbms without Pro*C. You can even develop applications without Pro*C using the OCI interface that I do believe is part and parcel of the standard rdbms package. Therefore for licensing requirements for Pro*C don't go looking under the RDBMS, but development tools. I know they include Pro*C with the rdbms cd's, but so don't they include partioning, context, etc.... It does not mean your free & clear to use it. And as always, if in doubt ask your sales droid, cautiously.


From: Carel-Jan Engel [mailto:cjpengel.dbalert_at_xs4all.nl] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:59 AM
To: Goulet, Dick
Cc: dba.orcl_at_gmail.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: License to use Pro*C

Sorry Dick, I don't get it.

Sami asked:

        Does anyone aware of the licensing terms for Pro*C in 9i EE.

9i EE, that is the RDBMS, isn't it? So I started looking under RDBMS.

The link I found contains the text:

        Note:         

        Components that require a separate license are identified in their descriptions in this appendix.

So, in this appendix the partitioning option shows:

        A feature that provides more control in managing tables and indexes by directing all maintenance operations to individual partitions rather than to tables and index names.         

        This component requires a separate license.

And Pro*C reads:

        The Pro*C/C++ precompiler takes SQL statements embedded in your C and C++ programs and converts them to standard C code. When you precompile this code, the result is a C or C++ program that you compile and use to build applications that access an Oracle9i database.

No words about a separate license here. So, when you got EE licensed,I think Pro*C is included in that license. I can imagine though that Pro*C, just for use with the Oracle client and without having your own Oracle RDBMS license, requires separate licensing, altough Oracle doesn't charge for the Oracle client software separately, IIRC.

The last thing I would do is to mislead the members of this list. I tried a search on tahiti.oracle.com with 'development tools license', as you suggested, but got no hits. Can you point where you found that Pro*C needs separate licensing?

Best regards,

Carel-Jan Engel

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On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 15:19, Goulet, Dick wrote:

        Look under development tools, nor RDBMS.         


	From: Carel-Jan Engel [mailto:cjpengel.dbalert_at_xs4all.nl] 
	Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:31 AM
	To: Goulet, Dick
	Cc: dba.orcl_at_gmail.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
	Subject: RE: License to use Pro*C
	
	
	I wouldn't say that I'm an Oracle license specialist, but IIRC
Pro*C has been included in the basic license since a couple of releases. The last release I remember you needed a separate license was 5, but maybe it was the case in 6 as well.         

        Focusing on 9i,
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/html/A95493_01/componen.htm#634251 <http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/html/A95493_01/componen.htm#634251 > shows what components need separate licenses. Pro*C isn't one of them.

	De options markes with a separate license note are:

- Advanced security
- Change Management Pack
- Diagnostics Pack
- Internet Directory (for general purpose LDAP usage)
- Label Security
- OLAP
- Partitioning
- RAC
- Spatial
- Tuning Pack
- Advanced Analytic Services - Data Mining
However, Oracle licensing details aren't available in a
prominently visable clear matrix on their website, it's more or less obfuscated, hidden in all sorts of documents. Otherwise these questions might not arise so often in this list.....

        Therefore, I need a disclaimer here: The observation that you do not need to license Pro*C separately is just my personal observation, and final answers about licensing are only available from authorized Oracle employees!         

        ;-)                  

Best regards,

Carel-Jan Engel

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        On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 15:58, Goulet, Dick wrote:

                Yes.=20                 

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Sami Seerangan [mailto:dba.orcl_at_gmail.com]=20
		Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:54 AM
		To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
		Subject: License to use Pro*C
		
		Hi:
		
		It may be slightly off topic.
		Does anyone aware of the licensing terms for Pro*C in 9i
EE. Do we
		have to pay any additional license fee to use Pro*C?
		
		Thanks in advance
		Sami
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