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Re: RMAN catalog standard edition

From: mhthomas <>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:03:13 -0500
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One (maybe two) small point... in-line... :-)

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:43:38 +0000, Niall Litchfield <> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 00:15:05 -0500, mhthomas <> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The OEM packs will run on SE depending on how its configured, on 10g
> > web-based EM. Legal configuration can be done by clicking on 'Setup'
> > (e.g. on the top-right of the <host>/em/console/aboutApplication) and
> > next click on the menu 'Management Pack Access'. I'd guess many shops
> > have inadvertantly configured it 'illegally' because they don't
> > understand the SE license restrictions (which cripple the product).
> I'm sure that you are correct. It can't really be done inadvertently
> as the license page comes up the first time you use EM.

I think it can-and-does get done inadvertantly. The best example I can think of is what happens when the 'first time' (as you mentioned) someone uses EM on the ORACLE_HOME is when the database is configured by the 'development' staff and handed off later to a 'production' support staff. Who can remember when the 'first time' happened? Is this why PD recommends a big 'revoke' script (a true bdbafh)? ;-)

> > It makes no sense to me why certain Database Configuration pack items
> > are special (extra cost) access: e.g. Patch Database and View Patch
> > Cache, and Patch staging.
> > Is Oracle saying patching is unimportant for SE since these features
> > are not included by default in EM? Yes. Why even allow SE customers
> > Metalink access? ;-)
> No small shops with part time DBAs and lower skill sets find patching easier !

Sorry, I can't resist adding one more comment. If I posted my notes for upgrading 6 mos of patches in one day on a single RAC/ASM/SE system, then its possible Oracle would lose much business attempting to sell this product with support. Or, maybe folks supplying the patches would get in trouble, or Oracle would address the systematic problems and resolve them to the customer's satisfaction, or money would grow on trees, or something like that...

My intent is not to upset the masses. Sorry, in advance, if anyone is offended by my somewhat tongue-in-cheek story telling (mostly true) in public. ;-)


Mike Thomas

Received on Wed Feb 09 2005 - 00:05:55 CST

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