From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jan 26 19:49:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0R1ndLP019109 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:49:39 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0R1ncem019105 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:49:38 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25BED65759; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31527-03; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A896653EB; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:48:50 -0500 (EST) Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: dba job security - even better if you're also the sysadmin Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:48:33 -0700 Message-ID: <17CAB0BF27BCFC47B0E4554A0E2F962B56297F@fiji.arraybp.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: dba job security - even better if you're also the sysadmin Thread-Index: AcUEBd1Yx5IGcEdKTH2k1eGVfAJ6HgAA8mEQ From: "Reidy, Ron" To: , "oracle-l" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2005 00:45:57.0375 (UTC) FILETIME=[906608F0:01C50409] X-archive-position: 15302 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Ron.Reidy@arraybiopharma.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: Ron.Reidy@arraybiopharma.com X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at example.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: If O'Reilly eve published this book, my vote would be for all the hype = and BS that comes out of the marketing machine. I know of many companies that have medium sized Oracle instances and no = or very limited DBA talent, and these organizations are suffering for = it. I laugh in their general direction! -- Ron Reidy Lead DBA Array BioPharma, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Paul Drake Sent: Wed 1/26/2005 5:17 PM To: oracle-l Cc:=09 Subject: dba job security - even better if you're also the sysadmin 10g - you won't need a dba http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_da= tabase_id=3DFOR&p_id=3D611535.995 if O'Reilly ever puts out an "Oracle Annoyances" book, having ocssd running for non-ASM, non-clustered installations in a respawn mode without supplying the wooden stake to kill the unholy beast - well, it gets my vote. Yes, I commented out the line in the file /etc/inittab, but I do not care to reboot this server on which I barely have a decent connection thru vnc with no sysadmin at that site for another week. a reboot could mean an unscheduled trip to Minnesota, which might even be more inhospitable than Pittsburgh was last Sunday. Yes, someone was nice enough to post the following on the thread listed = above: [root@mybox root]# /etc/init.d/init.cssd stop Shutting down CRS daemon. Shutting down EVM daemon. Shutting down CSS daemon. Shutdown request successfully issued. Is that too difficult to include in a note, or even in the 10.1.0.3 = patchset? btw - Oracle has re-released the 10g R1 for lin32 as 10.1.0.3, just like they did for the 9i R2 as 9.2.0.4. grumble. Paul - back to bdbafh mode. -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which = contains information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is = intended=20 to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are = not the=20 intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, = distribution=20 or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify = the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us = by telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system. -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l