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From: Christian Antognini <>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:36:30 +0100
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Hi David

> Good news is though, it looks like the industry going to be
> pushing oracle to change it. Little Story at the Register today

No idea if they will succeed... anyway a comment about the story...

> McNealy, however, urged that Sun plans to stay as tight as ever with
> Oracle.
> "We are planning to maintain that strong relationship," he said.=20
> "No matter how much Larry (Ellison) says Red Hat or Intel or Dell=20
> because we are their number one platform."

Now that Sun it's no more Oracle's development platform is probably too = late... poor Scoot...


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis, Les []=20 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:08 PM To:; Cc:
Subject: RE: Intel-Hyperthread-Linux-Oracle

As I mentioned yesterday, when we were in discussions with Oracle Tech reps and Sales reps, they informed us unequivocally that all that mattered is the PHYSICAL count of CPU's hyperthreading / multi-core did not matter...

I also said that you could probably talk with different reps and get different answers....They'll tell you whatever pops in their heads...remember they ARE sales people and they DO get paid based on the revenue they bring in.

Example we have a SUN E10k with 64 procs split into 7 nodes...(6 with 8 procs and 1 with 16 procs) they were telling us that we needed to license based on all 64 procs because we could redirect processors to different nodes if we wished by software commands. (We are looking at a couple of 'web based' apps that will require CPU licensing as opposed to named $40K per CPU, could kill the IT budget for the next century)

NOT TRUE...E10K does not have that ability....after several months, they finally agreed that we were right and we had them put it on paper for us...

SO, call back and talk to someone else and I bet you get a different answer.....

-----Original Message-----

[] On Behalf Of Christian Antognini Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:13 AM To:
Subject: RE: Intel-Hyperthread-Linux-Oracle

Hi Richard

>I wonder what Oracle's licensing plans are for CPUs that
>are: Hyper-threading, dual-core. Anyone has any insights
>to share?

No idea about hyper-threading but I know that multi-core CPUs are not = =3D
counted as a single processor! i.e. dual-core means to CPU for the =3D3D license.


Received on Fri Dec 10 2004 - 01:35:25 CST

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