RE: Operating System Experiences - Oracle App Server

The pigeons seems to do just fine in NYC, I imagine the robins aren't as bad off as you state. You seem to be more concerned with a little robin dropping dead than my freedom to "choose" what kind of car I want to drive. Besides you have plenty of rats and roaches and who is to say a roach is not =3D to a robin in value, more roaches, less robins, seems just fine.

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Gogala, Mladen Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:20 AM To: 'kfabijanic_at_optusnet.com.au'; oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: Operating System Experiences - Oracle App Server

<rant>
I know that I am cheap and easy. That is one among the consequences of the latest fashion known as the outsourcing. In 1998. in NYC, I was able to get $120/hr. Fortunately for us, the sight of two guys kissing seems to be more appalling and important then the fact that our salaries

have been falling like .... well, like a rock (my apologies to Buddy Holly=20
and Chevy). It's a painful topic which I prefer not to discuss any further=20
on this list.

As far as hybrids are concerned, my next car is definitely going to be one.
I really hate those large gas guzzling fu-mobiles (like Hummer) in which you

can enjoy the sight of little red robin choking in gas fumes in your=20 rearview mirror. Birds are dropping from the air as you drive. 40 gallons=20
of 93 octane - $100. Hummer - $80.000. The sight of the environment withering
and dieing in your rearview mirror - priceless. Some things in life are priceless,
for everything else there is MasterCard (TM). </rant>

As for Linux, it is so much Unix-like that everything you know about Unix will hold true on Linux. As a matter of fact, Linux is more Unix-like=20
then AIX. If you are Unix oriented site, then there is nothing to think about:
the answer to the question "where do you want to go today" is "to www.redhat.com".
Anywhere but Redmond, WA. As for the anecdotes, I don't have any. Linux has
seldomly given me anything to talk about. In fact, it is boring. It just works.
As for my political leanings and beliefs, I will not reveal those on this
forum.

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> From: Kresimir Fabijanic [mailto:kfabijanic_at_optusnet.com.au]=20

> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 5:46 AM

> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org

> Subject: Re: Operating System Experiences - Oracle App Server

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> Hi Mladen,

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> 1) You are not expensive - 50$ US p.h. is a fair price (probably the=20

> travel to Australia would be a major component of the cost) -=20

> BTW hope=20

> you get your civic soon (hopefully the hybrid one)

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> 2)  Personally, Linux would be my OS of choice - I have experience in=20

> both OSes and I am not uncomfortable with Bill=20

> Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaates - also our main=20

> db system=20

> is on AIX so we have a lot of shell script and Unix knowledge and the=20

> whole team feels more comfortable with Linux,=20

> buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut there is a Infrastructure=20

> group in our organisation and their preference was Windows as

>         a) we can't buy another AIX box,

>         b) we will not allow app server to be installed on the same=20

> server where the production db is located (we already let the b!@$*y=20

> Gentia in)

>         c) adding Linux  would add another OS to the organisation and=20

> that would cause issues with our S.O.E. (standard operating=20

> environment)=20

> [so lame excuse that I had to keep my face straight]

>         d) I spent four months beating Oracle Application=20

> Server 10g for=20

> Windoze into submission, so I do have some (not great)=20

> experience but...

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> 3) Discoverer is still an unbelievable piece of ...., well sranje....

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> 4) The posting was more an inquiry about the real life=20

> experiences (any=20

> anecdote is welcome) rather than the war of OSes.

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