From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Thu Oct 14 23:07:41 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i9F47fw27302 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:07:41 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i9F47fI27297 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:07:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CB80B72CD2A; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:13:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14805-03; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:13:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E30072C79A; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:13:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <416F4E13.6030100@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:12:03 -0400 From: Bob Metelsky Organization: Shoreline Resources User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Re: RMAN-NetBackup without an RMAN Catalog References: In-Reply-To: Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 11121 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bobmetelsky@comcast.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: bobmetelsky@comcast.net X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org Is this a possible solution? Use a $500 desktop with your version of oracle, your reporting software, the reports,copy the database. Test it, put it away. Ive done this at a few clients sites - it was actually recommended by the client. It dosnt scale well but it works Bob "Oracle error messages being what they are, do not highlight the correct cause of fault, but will identify some other error located close to where the real fault lies." Jared Still wrote: >On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:28:13 -0700, Joel Garry > wrote: > > >>It boils down to Oracle not wanting to spend the bucks to allow backward >>compatibility, and no one yet seeing the value of designing software for >>the ages. Even if nothing else will grant the latter, restoration >>software must deal with aging. I think RMAN should be able to deal with >>multiple versions, restoring the O install if it has to. Well, maybe >>not without a catalog... :-) >> >> >> > >This problem is bigger than Oracle. > >Say you can restore your 5 year old data? > >Do you have an app that can work with it? > >Archived copies of the application? > >A place to run it? > >Documentation that tells you how to do so? > >I recently ran into a scenario like this where the financial wizards needed >old finance data to make it through an audit. > >The data was/is in Great Plains. A version that is about 6 or 7 years old. > >Fortunately, we still have a CD of the original version. > >A local consultant had a copy of the old Btrieve database binaries, and the >expertise to set it up. It took quite a while to get this all figured >out and setup. >Our consultant ( the second one we called, not the first) knew her stuff, sorted >it all out and saved the day. > >In the meantime, the finance wizards were forced to go back to the paper trail, >which some predecessor had thoughtfully created during the migration to SAP, >and prepared their data from these reports, because there was a lot >more involved >to setting up an old version of GP than copying some files around. > > >Food for thought. > > > -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l