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RE: Normalization

From: Nelson, Allan <anelson_at_miswaco.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:20:15 -0500
Message-ID: <7E0DB3A126BA9146AC30744E2B7E4245974340@midhouhqxch01.net.smith.com>


I have the Oracle 6 & 7 version through the 8i version. That is the line that starts the "Performance and Design" chapter which is chapter 20 in the 6 & 7 version and chapter 40 in the 8i version. I don't have either the 9i or 10g version.

Allan

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Pete Sharman Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:53 PM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Cc: Peter Ross Sharman
Subject: RE: Normalization

I still actually have that book (largely because it's where I got the line =3D
in my sig from) and in that version it quotes George Koch (Oracle7, The Com=3D
plete Reference) as saying "No major application will run in Third Normal F=3D
orm". Kevin's book was actually written in 94, but you were pretty close.

I had a scan through the 10g version of the complete reference, and can't s=3D
ee that same quote anywhere.

 =3D

Pete
 =3D

"Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
 =3D

"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] =3D On Behalf Of Singer, Phillip (P.W.)
Sent: Saturday, 31 July 2004 4:38 AM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: Normalization

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Sent:	Thu 7/29/2004 4:05 PM
To:	Oracle-L Freelists
Cc:	=3D

Subject:	Re: Normalization

On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 11:09, Daniel Fink wrote: > I recall a quotation to the effect that no database will perform adequate=3D
ly
> in 3rd Normal Form. To me this defines the difference between theory and
...

I first saw this in the first editon of the Official Oracle DBA Hanbook,
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published by Oracle Press; the edition which covered Version 6 and the =3D

beginnings of Version 7.(circa 1993) I no longer have that book, but I
=3D

remembered it being in the 8i edition. I found it on page 323, where =3D

it is attributed to ORACLE8: the Complete Reference. I don't know if =3D

it has disappeared from more recent editions.

The reason for bringing this all up is that 10 years ago, this was reasonab=3D
le
advice. In the systems I have worked with in the last two years, I have honestly never come accross a situation where denormalizing was ever needed=3D
.=3D

In fact, we have had several situations where the solution was to re-normal=3D
ize an old denormalized design.



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