From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jul 27 12:44:45 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6RHiUc28429 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:44:40 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6RHiJ628392 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:44:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0582272DCD3; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31476-79; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AE7BD72D9C6; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:20:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3878172D7EF for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30132-90 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from agminet03.oracle.com (agminet03.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82F7872D721 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.10]) by agminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i6RHdBue004190 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:41:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id i6RHdBh3001249 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:39:11 -0600 Received: from au.oracle.com (dhcp-tda3-tdb3-tdc3-tdr3-west-144-25-182-30.us.oracle.com [144.25.182.30]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i6RHd4fR000824; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:39:04 -0600 Message-Id: <200407271739.i6RHd4fR000824@rgmgw1.us.oracle.com> From: Pete Sharman To: oracle-l@freelists.org Cc: Peter Ross Sharman Subject: RE: AWR Licensing Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:39:03 +1000 X-Sent-Folder-Path: Sent Items X-Mailer: Oracle Connector for Outlook 9.0.4 60130 (10.0.4712) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 6194 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter.sharman@oracle.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org Correct, Connie is still the lovely lady in charge of that. Confirmed by M= r. Wood over a beer and a scotch on Friday. :) = Pete = "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook = "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] = On Behalf Of Mogens N=F8rgaard Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:51 AM To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Re: AWR Licensing Heh-heh. Is it my memory doing crazy things again, or did you also = advise customers to buy diagnostics pack and tuning back before it = became useful with 10g? Or did you tell the truth also back then? Statspack is still there with 10g, works as it should, and Connie Green = from Oracle Development (member of the OakTable like you :-) ) is still = enhancing it, I think. With Statspack, 10046 and all the other free stuff available I think = it's still possible to find performance problems without the new packs. = But they are cool in their concept and implmentation. Just not with the = license implemtation model :-). Mogens Pete Sharman wrote: > Statspack? Sure, still being enhanced for those poor individuals who can= 't=3D > afford the diagnostics pack. ;) > = > =3D > = > Pete > =3D > = > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > =3D > = > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" > Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA > = > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org= ] =3D > On Behalf Of Jared Still > Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2004 3:12 PM > To: Oracle-L Freelists > Subject: RE: AWR Licensing > = > On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 20:11, Pete Sharman wrote: > = >>No question about it at all. Read the licensing doc, you'll find it spel= =3D > = > t =3D3D > = >>out in black and white. AWR, ADDM, all the PL/SQL AND data dictionary vi= =3D > = > ew=3D3D > = >>s associated with them should only be accessed if you have the diag pack = =3D > = > li=3D3D > = >>cense. >>=3D > = > = > = > I see that all the SP stuff is still in $OH/rdbms/admin. > = > Is it still officially supported as of 10g? > = > Jared > = > = > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@freelists.org > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > = > = > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@freelists.org > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > = ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@freelists.org put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@freelists.org put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------