Re: DBA Hacks Book

From: Darrell Landrum <darrell_at_landrum.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 21:27:13 -0500
Message-ID: <002601c4566e$194d63b0$6401a8c0@darrell1>

DBA Hacks BookWell, Rob, that's a nice Mr. holier than thou attitude you have there. In reference to the note at hand you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say users, I said developers and guess who developed said database, although the database is not the problem. I'm talking about high paid programmers with at least several years and several classes behind them. These people frequently do the wrong thing, often against advise and even against established standards (could go all night on the points of failure in an organization that let that happen). Then, it is not just the programmer, but the DBA as well who gets paged in the middle of the night when their production job runs long and I find a pl/sql loop which calls the same function to get a fiscal month close date to compare to each of 64,000,000 records, 64,000,000 times rather than once at the beginning of the program. This occurred some months after the reviewing DBA on the project had given them specific details on how to code this better. So, here we go again, indeed. It is not me, but you who is short sighted in this case, and I do have just cause for complaining.

Original Message ----- From: rob zijlstra To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 8:40 AM Subject: RE: DBA Hacks Book

>> I work with developers who use our databases all the time in ways that aren't anticipated but I can't discuss it without a lot of unfriendly language.

Here we go again.

In prehistoric times (about 1980) when I started to learn to program, one of the first things I learned that if a user does something that you hadn't anticipate, it was not the fault of the user. Of course it only meant that the programmer didn't use his brains enough to foresee these things. He should make a better program, and certainly NOT try to explain to the user that 'he shouldn't do that and that'; no, if he was a real programmer, the user could NEVER even do 'that and that'.

The sentence above only means to me, that the person who developed the db in question should try to work smarter instead of complaining!

Greetings,

Rob Zijlstra.

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