From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 17 17:05:14 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5HM4ic02147 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:04:54 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5HM4R602122 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:04:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C48B72C83F; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22166-57; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 49FA972C59B; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:46:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BE3BA72C0BA for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20610-74 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.ip-soft.net (mailer.ip-soft.net [209.67.6.123]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CCFBB72CA71 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from highway2 (highway2.ip-soft.net [192.168.5.43]) by mailer.ip-soft.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i5HM6jRR008108 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:06:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200406172206.i5HM6jRR008108@mailer.ip-soft.net> From: "Daniel Harron" To: Subject: RE: Oracle 10 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:06:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009F_01C45495.D9E46220" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <200406172142.i5HLgufB014004@rgmgw2.us.oracle.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcRUtN4V36tyABpvT/2QTjpitw1CeQAAbz+A X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 2952 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: daniel@ip-soft.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C45495.D9E46220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another large factor is weather or not all of the various application vendors involved support 10g. If you are using a commercial applications server (WebLogic, Websphere, etc.) other than Oracle Apps. 10g is probably not support. -Daniel -- Daniel Harron Database Management IPsoft, Inc. daniel.harron@ip-soft.net http://www.ip-soft.net/ Phone: 888.IPSOFT8 Fax: 801.681.7664 _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Pete Sharman Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:43 PM To: oracle-l@freelists.org Cc: Peter Ross Sharman Subject: RE: Oracle 10 Of course it's stable. :-) Well, did you expect anything else? Seriously, if the downtime / testing cycle that you need to undertake with an upgrade is an issue for you, I would be inclined to skip 9i completely. The fact that you can upgrade direct from 8.1.7 to 10g and the extension of support for 8i till the end of the year was done specifically to help you do that. There are some customers for whom it is a major problem to get agreement for an upgrade, so if the product is stable and there's no compelling reason to move to 9i (about the only one of which I can think of would be ISV support) then I would go straight to 10g. Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lange Sent: Friday, 18 June 2004 6:24 AM To: 'oracle-l@freelists.org' Subject: Oracle 10 Curious on what the crowd feels about Version 10. We are currently on 8.1.7.4. When we upgrade, should we even worry about Version 9 ? Or just skip directly to the latest 10 ? Is it stable ? Any major issues that folks are waiting on getting fixed ? Thanks for any insight. 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Another large factor is weather or not all of = the various=20 application vendors involved support 10g.  If you are using a = commercial=20 applications server (WebLogic, Websphere, etc.) other than Oracle Apps. = 10g is=20 probably not support.
 

-Daniel

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Daniel Harron
Database=20 Management
IPsoft, Inc.
daniel.harron@ip-soft.net
http://www.ip-soft.net/
Phone:=20 888.IPSOFT8
Fax: 801.681.7664

 


From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org=20 [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Pete=20 Sharman
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:43 PM
To:=20 oracle-l@freelists.org
Cc: Peter Ross = Sharman
Subject: RE:=20 Oracle 10

Of = course=20 it’s stable.  J

 

Well, did you=20 expect anything else?  Seriously, if the downtime / testing cycle = that you=20 need to undertake with an upgrade is an issue for you, I would be = inclined to=20 skip 9i completely.  The fact that you can upgrade direct from = 8.1.7 to 10g=20 and the extension of support for 8i till the end of the year was done=20 specifically to help you do that.  There are some customers for = whom it is=20 a major problem to get agreement for an upgrade, so if the product is = stable and=20 there’s no compelling reason to move to 9i (about the only one of = which I can=20 think of would be ISV support) then I would go straight to=20 10g.

 

 

Pete

 

"Controlling=20 developers is like herding cats."

Kevin Loney,=20 Oracle DBA Handbook

 

"Oh = no, it's=20 not.  It's much harder than that!"

Bruce=20 Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA

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From:=20 oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] = On Behalf Of Kevin = Lange
Sent: Friday, 18 June 2004 6:24=20 AM
To: = '
oracle-l@freelists.org'
Subject:
Oracle = 10

 

Curious on=20 what the crowd feels about Version 10.

 

We are=20 currently on 8.1.7.4.  When we upgrade, should we even worry about = Version=20 9 ?  Or just skip directly to the latest 10 ?   Is it = stable=20 ?  Any major issues that folks are waiting on getting fixed=20 ?

 

Thanks for=20 any insight.

 

Kevin

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