From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 4 04:43:07 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i549gqK21781 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:43:02 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i549gf621749 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:42:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CD70272DB4D; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20462-39; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1BDAA72DEF3; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:21:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C24B172DA94 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17594-58 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.66]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3C4772D9F7 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.155] (c211-30-91-186.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.91.186]) (authenticated) by mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i549Zgs18653 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:35:42 +1000 Message-ID: <40C04277.1020403@optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:35:51 +1000 From: Nuno Souto Organization: Nunovyabizzness User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Re: Database programming standards References: <0HYQ00IHWKZ3BQ@revere.dol.state.nj.us> <20040603143028.GA2744@mladen.wangtrading.com> In-Reply-To: <20040603143028.GA2744@mladen.wangtrading.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 1961 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dbvision@optusnet.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org Mladen Gogala allegedly said,on my timestamp of 4/06/2004 12:30 AM: > somebody else communicates with the business users and all they do is coding. I find the > open policy to be the best one. You should have open debate of pluses and minuses of both, > instead of conducting office politics and lobying with the senior management. Ben there, done that, doesn't work. Grab a bat and hit them hard between the eyes. Only way of curing the problem. -- Cheers Nuno Souto in sunny Sydney, Australia dbvision@optusnet.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@freelists.org put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------