From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 3 09:46:33 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i53EkIU24673 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:46:28 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i53Ek8624639 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:46:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD6C872CD86; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27710-82; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 16B1F72CDF5; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 09:30:28 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2805772C5A7 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27592-18 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from enhbgsmtp01.state.pa.us (enhbgsmtp01.state.pa.us [206.224.21.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C689472C862 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:29:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ENHBGPRI11.PA.LCL ([206.224.21.35]) by enhbgsmtp01.state.pa.us with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:47:54 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6524.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: RE: Database programming standards Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:47:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Database programming standards Thread-Index: AcRJZt1ITw1t1bJpQSm3DPLGvnA/IQABjlRQAAHi3sAAAOwQgA== From: "Freeman, Donald" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2004 14:47:54.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[C08EC8F0:01C44979] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 1874 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dofreeman@state.pa.us Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org That is exactly why... These are government positions and the job title is application programmer. People applying go through civil service screening and hiring process and only have to be able to program in SOME language. Agencies then have to recruit from the pool of approved candidates. If there aren't any pl/sql programmers in the pool then you pick the best candidates that you can get. If you don't, the position and salary may get grabbed by somebody else for their project or horse traded away. If you actually hire somebody you then try and beat your candidate into a hat that fits. Make sense? The majority of the consultants are H1b visa holders and are therefore ineligible for the positions. I have found in my short time in government that people are either super-good and do the work of ten or superbad and it takes the work of ten to make one work. > The only reason I can think of, for you favoring .net code instead of PL/SQL is if you are having a lot of .net expertise in-house and > very few PL/SQL programmers. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@freelists.org put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------