From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 3 08:21:54 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i53DLT503422 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:21:39 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i53DLJ603372 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:21:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2AA9F72C27D; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09375-65; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75FC672C0E3; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:06:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E515D72C1DC for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09375-36 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.corpsys.csedge.com (unknown [12.28.86.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52E6B72C0BE for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from CSMAIL.corpsys.csedge.com ([172.21.100.103]) by smtp2.corpsys.csedge.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:26:31 -0500 Received: by csmail.corpsys.csedge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:26:31 -0500 Message-ID: <0C3690346404A94CBF4DDDD4724FC614123833A9@csmail.corpsys.csedge.com> From: April Wells To: "'oracle-l@freelists.org'" Subject: RE: Database programming standards Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:26:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4496E.61670C30" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 1855 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: AWells@csedge.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4496E.61670C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "Because the job will be much easier long-term after they are gone." They might get to keep their jobs longer since it isn't in the database but in their programs. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas @>-->-->-- "Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite" Adam Wells age 11 "Imagination is the highest kite one can fly." Lauren Bacall -----Original Message----- From: Freeman, Donald [mailto:dofreeman@state.pa.us] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:22 AM To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: RE: Database programming standards We are undergoing this battle. The project that I am assigned to hired contractors who brought in pl/sql programmers and put 90% of the logic and business rules in the backend implemented as pl/sql. Now the project end is in sight and all the full-time staff programmers (hired more recently) are .net programmers who want to rip it all out and put it into the front end. Why? The information contained in this communication, including attachments, is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also contain proprietary, price sensitive, or legally privileged information. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, distribution, dissemination, use, or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail, delete this communication, and destroy all copies. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken reasonable precautions to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We specifically disclaim all liability and will accept no responsibility for damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you to carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4496E.61670C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Database programming standards

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"Because the job will be much easier long-term= after they are gone."<g>
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They might get to keep their jobs longer since it isn't= in the database but in their programs.

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
 @>-->-->--
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a= kite"
Adam Wells age 11
"Imagination is the highest kite one can= fly."
Lauren Bacall


-----Original Message-----
From: Freeman, Donald [mailto:dofreeman@state.pa.us]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:22 AM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: RE: Database programming standards


We are undergoing this battle. The project that I am= assigned to hired contractors who brought in pl/sql programmers and put= 90% of the logic and business rules in the backend implemented as= pl/sql.  Now the project end is in sight and all the full-time staff= programmers (hired more recently) are .net programmers who want to rip it= all out and put it into the front end. Why? 



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given that any disclosure, distribution,= dissemination,
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than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited
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