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RE: RAC and LMT

From: Pete Sharman <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:52:08 +1000
Message-Id: <200405210652.i4L6q9jF025894@rgmgw2.us.oracle.com>


And to amplify back again ... :)

You can move tables online, provided they're IOT's. If not, normal tables = can be moved pretty much online using DBMS_REDEFINITION. One stage require= s a lock for a brief time, but that's all.

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Pete
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"Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
 =

"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] = On Behalf Of Tim Gorman
Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 4:43 PM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: FW: RAC and LMT

To amplify Mr Sharman's reply...

  ALTER TABLE <table-name> MOVE
    [ PARTITION <part-name> | SUBPARTITION <subpart-name> ]     TABLESPACE <new-LMT>
    PARALLEL <as-much-as-you-can-stand>
    NOLOGGING; Moving ONLINE is available only for indexes, unfortunately. And doing the former (ALTER TABLE ... MOVE) will absolutely require the latter (ALTER INDEX ... REBUILD).   ALTER INDEX <index-name> REBUILD
    [ PARTITION <part-name> | SUBPARTITION <subpart-name> ]     TABLESPACE <new-LMT>
    PARALLEL <as-much-as-you-can-stand>
    [ ONLINE ]
    NOLOGGING COMPUTE STATISTICS; A great way to exercise the heck out of your disk drives, too...

on 5/19/04 3:27 PM, Pete Sharman at peter.sharman_at_oracle.com wrote:

> Lies, damned lies and LMT's. :)
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> Whoever told you LMT's were a requirement was wrong. A damn good idea, y=
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> , but not a requirement.
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> I haven't played with it much, but I remember hearing from Howard Rogers =
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> at the procedure you referred to left a certain amount to be desired from=
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> fragmentation perspective. Can't recall the details, but if you googled =
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> n c.d.o.s you'd find it.
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> As an aside, you don't need to export/import to achieve what you want. M=
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> e the objects online instead if that's preferable.
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> Pete
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> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
> =3D
> =

> "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
> Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
> =

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org=
] =3D
> On Behalf Of todd.sheetz_at_aurora.org
> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 6:50 AM
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: RAC and LMT
> =

> We are currently on Oracle 8.1.7.3 on VMS and are starting the planning t=

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> upgrade to 9.2.0.5 later this year. Early next year we are planning on =3D=

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> implementing RAC. I have heard/read that LMT are required for RAC. We =3D=

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> are currently on dictionary managed per vendor mandate but will be able t=

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> use LMT by the time we go to RAC. My (long winded) question is whether =3D=

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> the DBMS_SPACE_ADMIN.TABLEPSACE_MIGRATE_TO_LOCAL is good enough to =3D
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> implement LMT for RAC. I understand that we won't have all the positives=
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> of LMT, but we are currently at 1.75 terabytes and I would not be looking=
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> forward to exporting and importing it tablespace by tablespace.
> Any thoughts or comments are greatly appreciated!
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> Thanks
> =

> Todd Sheetz
> Senior Database Administrator
> Aurora Health Care
> =

> Who's the more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him. Obi-Wan Ke=
nobi



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