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From: Mohan, Ross <>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:49:39 -0400
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Human Nature, dude. We all are reluctant (to varying degrees) to admit mistakes.
You are the smart guy on the stick on this one. You could send them a mail, maybe? Help Jeff out? (Even more
than you are, which is quite significant, IMHO)

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gorman [] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Informatica Bulk Mode behavior

Sounds like they're rationalizing the fact that they screwed up the coding... :-)

They should be using "OCIDirPathDataSave()" for data saves, not "OCIDirPathFinish()" followed by "OCIDirPathPrepare()". The amazing thing is that they are aware of their screw-up! Their coding is analogous to closing and re-opening a frequently-executed cursor after each execution -- unnecessary and foolish.

The fact that they coded incorrectly and that it is affecting space management adversely, causing bulk loads to be perform unnecessarily poorly as well, is bad enough. But the mis-information in blaming their faulty coding on an "Oracle design limitation" is either dishonesty or stupidity or both.

on 4/27/04 6:52 AM, Thomas Jeff at wrote:

> Tim, Waleed, we got this response from Informatica Support:
> We are using the OCI DPL (direct path load) in the following way:
> First, We get a block with "x" # of rows.
> Do following loop
> Call ColArrayToStream for these "x" rows.
> Load whatever we can (call DirPathLoadStream)
> Do a DirPathStreamReset.
> while ColArrayToStream did not convert all the rows, repeat the above
> steps for the remainder rows.
> Every so often, depending on our "commit" interval, we will call
> DirPathFinish (and then reprepare).
> The 2 differences between our process and Oracle's demo program are:
> 1) the # of rows "x" may be different. They may be optimizing the "x"
> that they pick. We derive "x"=20 from the buffer block size.
> 2) Oracle does 1 DirPathFinish at the end of the process, whereas we
> do it on every commit. =20
> Thus, we could probably simulate exactly what Oracle's test program is
> doing by making sure that the=20 # of rows in the block matches their
> test program and the target commit interval is really high.
> So there seem to be 2 possible places where we may be causing more
> extents to be created than necessary. =20
> 1) The last load in the loop may be less than the amount of rows that
> can fit in a transfer block. Not sure if this matters at all, but if
> the last load contains only 1 row, this may be a wasted allocated
> extent.
> 2) The DirPathFinish DEFINITELY seems to be causing a new extent to be
> created.
> We still have one X factor that we need to account for. The CR
> mentions that if the commit interval is high, we=20 sometimes get the
> following error:
> ORA-01658: unable to create INITIAL extent for segment in table
> space=20 Our guess is that somehow we ran out of space to get an
> extent. (perhaps in the temp table space) Perhaps=20 this can be
> limited somehow if there is a way to turn off logging (if it was,
> indeed, on), but I didn't see=20 this option available. Although we
> haven't tested this yet, we would think that the sample program would
> have=20 similar issues, although it may take a little longer because
> they may not have wasted extents as listed in option=20
> 1) above.
> Solutions:
> The workaround fix is to play with the buffer block size and the
> commit size. If the buffer block size fits=20 the correct amount of
> rows, we may have a somewhat optimal fix. We may want to consider
> logging certain=20 information that may help the user pick a correct
> buffer size, but, of course, this can be kinda cryptic.

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