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RE: any data modeling forums?

From: Michael Milligan <Michael.Milligan_at_ingenix.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:33:05 -0600
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Richard,  

I agree with everything you just said. Database design is indeed an art form, and it is hard work that takes digging and probing and questioning and bugging people who don't want to define what they think they want. But when you finally get it right, you know it in your gut. It feels right. It's very satisfying.  

Mike

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From: Richard Stevenson [mailto:rstevenson_at_cobblesoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:24 PM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: any data modeling forums?

Hey - I'm with April - I may be getting older and hallucinating, but I still like to think the reason I get paid above the minimum wage is for the quality of my DB design.... :)  

A good database design is worth its weight in gold - unfortunately there seem to be very few of those these days - I've seen what comes out of too many commercial products that claim to support every database going with the same DDL. Design is an art form - one for me that elicits the same kind of passion with which a great DBA proudly polishes his/her database. I've lost count of how many times I've seen shops hire more consultants come in to clean up the mess left behind by the original consultants - but then I guess you get what you pay for.  

Richard.
Your brain is like a database - you simply have to know how to access it (anon.).

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooo

There are weird people out here who still TRY to design databases. We often get told to sit down and shut up in meetings... but we are out here.

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
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From: Niall Litchfield [ mailto:n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk <mailto:n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk> ] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:20 AM To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: any data modelling forums?

Does anyone *design* databases these days, aren't they just patterns and models and objects or generated on the fly by application code?

Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
Audit Commission
+44 117 975 7805



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