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RE: Controlling developers is like herding cats

From: April Wells <AWells_at_csedge.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 06:57:50 -0600
Message-ID: <0C3690346404A94CBF4DDDD4724FC614102A8DB6@csmail.corpsys.csedge.com>

See, I knew I heard it somewhere...  

It is also (at least on Windows) a lot like trying to herd jellyfish ... just as difficult as cats, and every once in a while you get stung a bit.

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
 @>-->-->--
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite" Adam Wells age 11
"Imagination is the highest kite one can fly." Lauren Bacall

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gorman [mailto:tim_at_sagelogix.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:05 PM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats

Barbara Matthews ( http://www.OnCallDBA.com) <http://www.OnCallDBA.com)> presented "Managing the Concurrent Manager: Herding Cats" at IOUW 1994, I think it was. She has since updated that original paper for R10.7, R11.0.3, and R11i, in addition to newer papers on month-end weedwhacking in Oracle Apps...

on 3/22/04 10:33 AM, April Wells at AWells_at_csedge.com wrote:

administering financials (11i e-business suite) has been referred to by the same euphemism...

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
 @>-->-->--
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite" Adam Wells age 11
"Imagination is the highest kite one can fly." Lauren Bacall

-----Original Message-----
From: jtesta_at_dmc-it.com [ mailto:jtesta_at_dmc-it.com] <mailto:jtesta_at_dmc-it.com]>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:28 AM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats

Juan, its just Pete's signature line, dont get too worked up about it :)

joe

> This is true ryan,
> But comments like "Controlling developers is like herding cats"
> Seems that someone have problems organizing the work,
> Independently of who is responsible of that, they must be solved.
>
> The point is if some one wants to talk about their problems as dba,
> working with other people and how to solve them.
> I have some experience and this could be interesting, sahre ideas found
> to solve them.
> Now if no body have problems with that then there is no reason for this
> post.
> :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net>
> To: <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
>
>

>> your question is vague. what do you mean by organizing developers. its 
>> not 

> the DBAs responsibility to do that. It's their management's
> responsibility.
>> 
>> what do you mean? 
>> > 
>> > From: "Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco" <jreyes_at_dazasoftware.com> 
>> > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon AM 10:32:06 EST 
>> > To: <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> 
>> > Subject: Controlling developers is like herding cats 
>> > 
>> > I don't know if some dba, want to talk about the way to solve 
>> > organizing a group of developer (including times, work to be done, 
>> quality control, etc.) 
>> > We have some experience, and had developed a software for internal 
>> use, 
>> > 
>> > Maybe someone want to talk about this, I think this is a critical 
>> work for the dba. 
>> > 
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