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RE: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats

From: Vergara, Michael (TEM) <mvergara_at_guidant.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 09:53:03 -0800
Message-ID: <791D0E1ECDECD04D89205F33806FC38701E91CFC@temmse06.tem.guidant.com>


Y'know what? It's also funny. Loosen up!

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From: ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net [mailto:ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 9:46 AM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats

It's not a 'developer' problem. It's a team and management problem. It's also a lack of technical skill amongst Developer's and/or DBA problem.

>
> From: Mladen Gogala <mladen_at_wangtrading.com>
> Date: 2004/03/22 Mon PM 12:31:53 EST
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
>
> Yes, that's true. One thing to remember when talking about developers is
> that work liberates, or in German: "Arbeit Macht Frei". Good organization
> is the final solution of the developer problem. Of course, I'm a DBA,
> in case anyone had any doubts.
>
> On 03/22/2004 12:15:33 PM, Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco wrote:
> > This is true ryan,
> > But comments like "Controlling developers is like herding cats"
> > Seems that someone have problems organizing the work,
> > Independently of who is responsible of that, they must be solved.
> >
> > The point is if some one wants to talk about their problems as dba,
> > working with other people and how to solve them.
> > I have some experience and this could be interesting, sahre ideas found to
> > solve them.
> > Now if no body have problems with that then there is no reason for this
> > post.
> > :)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net>
> > To: <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
> >
> >
> > > your question is vague. what do you mean by organizing developers. its not
> > the DBAs responsibility to do that. It's their management's responsibility.
> > >
> > > what do you mean?
> > > >
> > > > From: "Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco" <jreyes_at_dazasoftware.com>
> > > > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon AM 10:32:06 EST
> > > > To: <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> > > > Subject: Controlling developers is like herding cats
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if some dba, want to talk about the way to solve
> > > > organizing a group of developer (including times, work to be done,
> > > > quality control, etc.)
> > > > We have some experience, and had developed a software for internal use,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe someone want to talk about this, I think this is a critical work
> > > > for the dba.
> > > >
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