From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Wed Mar 17 22:59:07 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2I4x7d03586 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:59:07 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2I4x3o03580 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:59:03 -0600 Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74D5D390A8C; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:55:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from plugngo.travelnet.ca (unknown [66.181.201.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 804AA390778 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.255.255.146] ([10.255.255.146]) by plugngo.travelnet.ca (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id i2I5RIK14182 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:27:18 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:02:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Database security From: Tim Gorman To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1A4AC4BAB9C50A42854582B69B08C0340426291D@MSGMARBIO05> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3162405730_9641874" X-archive-position: 1106 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@sagelogix.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l --B_3162405730_9641874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable There=B9s nothing restricting knowledge of each of the halves of the password to only one individual. Just that no single individual knows both halves..= . on 3/17/04 7:30 AM, Boivin, Patrice J at BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca wrote: > Er... what happens if one of the two people gets hit by a bus? > =20 > Just curious. > =20 > Patrice. >> =20 >> =20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Whittle Jerome Contr NCI [mailto:Jerome.Whittle@scott.af.mil] >> Sent: March 17, 2004 10:14 AM >> To: oracle-l@freelists.org >> Cc: ian@slac.stanford.edu >> Subject: RE: Database security >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> You'd have to hire guards to shoot anyone entering the No Lone Zone sol= o. >> Reminds me of my aircraft maintenance days in the military. Of course t= he >> stakes were MUCH higher then. >> =20 >>=20 >> Jerry Whittle >> =20 >>=20 >> ASIFICS DBA >> =20 >>=20 >> NCI Information Systems Inc. >> =20 >>=20 >> jerome.whittle@scott.af.mil >> =20 >>=20 >> 618-622-4145 >> =20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> From: MacGregor, Ian A. [SMTP:ian@slac.stanford.edu] >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> There is also the idea of two-man control. No one is allowed sole acc= ess >>> to the machine room. No one knows the entire root/admin or dba passw= ord. >>> I know of many places which implement two-man control for physical >>> security, but none that have carried it to the computer security level= . It >>> would be so burdensome. >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Ian MacGregor >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> ian@slac.stanford.edu >>>=20 >=20 --B_3162405730_9641874 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Database security There’s nothing res= tricting knowledge of each of the halves of the password to only one individ= ual.  Just that no single individual knows both halves...



on 3/17/04 7:30 AM, Boivin, Patrice J at BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca wrote:
Er... what happens if one of the two people gets hit = by a bus?
Just curious.
Patrice.

 
-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: Whittle Jerome  Contr NCI [mailto:Jerome.Whittle@scott.af.mil]
Sent: March 17, 2004  10:14 AM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Cc:  ian@slac.stanford.edu
Subject: RE: Database  security

You'd have  to hire guards to shoot anyone enter= ing the No Lone Zone solo. Reminds me of  my aircraft maintenance days = in the military. Of course the stakes were MUCH  higher then.

Jerry Whittle
 

ASIFICS DBA
 

NCI Information Systems  Inc.
 

jerome.whittle@scott.af.mil
 

618-622-4145
 
    -----Original  Message-----

    From:   MacGregor, Ian  A. [SMTP:ian@slac.stanford.edu]

    There is  also the idea of two-man control. &nbs= p;No one is allowed sole access  to the machine room.  No one know= s the entire  root/admin or  dba password.  I know of many pl= aces which implement two-man  control for physical security, but none t= hat have carried it to the  computer security level.  It would be = so burdensome.

     
     

    Ian  MacGregor

    Stanford  Linear Accelerator Center

    ian@slac.stanford.edu <mailto:ian@slac.stanford.edu>



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