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Re[4]: oracle can ignore hints

From: Jonathan Gennick <jonathan_at_gennick.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:40:33 -0500
Message-ID: <58733612759.20040315104033@gennick.com>


Hello Mark,

Yep. SQLExpert. Leccotech. That sounds about right. That's the tool I've seen demoed.

Best regards,

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Monday, March 15, 2004, 9:05:01 AM, Mark Leith (mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk) wrote:

ML> Jonathan - are you referring to SQLExpert? This tool does in fact
ML> re-write a given piece of SQL in every semantically equivalent way that
ML> is possible (including hints, rewriting the code semantics etc.) - then
ML> shows you all of the re-written statements that have an alternate
ML> execution plan to the source SQL for benchmarking.. 

ML> I'm pretty sure that no other SQL tuner in the market does this quite
ML> like SQLExpert (please correct me if I'm wrong - I don’t get the chance
ML> to test out new versions of competitors products lately, and they may be
ML> catching up with SQLExpert - which has been doing tuning this way since ML> first release..).

ML> The vendor is Leccotech by the way - we are a UK distributor.

ML> Mark

ML> Mark Leith
ML> Cool-Tools UK Limited

ML> Tel: 01905 330 281
ML> Fax: 08701 275 283
ML> mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk
ML> http://www.cool-tools.co.uk 


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ML> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org; Niall Litchfield ML> Subject: Re: Re[2]: oracle can ignore hints

ML> embarcadero is one. I think quest's does the same thing.
>>
>> From: Jonathan Gennick <jonathan_at_gennick.com>
>> Date: 2004/03/15 Mon AM 08:01:38 EST
>> To: Niall Litchfield <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
>> Subject: Re[2]: oracle can ignore hints
>>
>> Monday, March 15, 2004, 4:12:55 AM, Niall Litchfield
>> (n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk) wrote:
>> NL> Stated like this it is obvious that most tuning efforts are at
>> NL> best wasteful of effort (and indeed could probably be done better
>> NL> by software which is great at trying hundreds or thousands of
>> NL> possibilities in a scattergun approach).
>>
>> I have seen such software. I don't recall the vendor at the moment,
>> but that software exists. You can probably see it demoed at the next
>> OracleWorld.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are
>> http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:jonathan@gennick.com
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