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RE: RE: LMT ASSM & next extent

From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:45:17 -0600
Message-ID: <0186754BC82DD511B5C600B0D0AAC4D607AFFF20@EXCHMN3>


Niall

   Here is the equation I work with:

       Which is greater:
          1) The time spent monitoring and adjusting the storage in each
tablespace per year.
          2) Time spent cleaning up from the occasional runaway process that
filled up the device each year.

   If 1 is greater, use autoextend. If 2 is greater, don't use autoextend.    I started to include time to monitor disk space, but that occurs in both alternatives.

   In my situation, I used to spend a day or so each week monitoring and forecasting disk space. Then my workload expanded and that day disappeared. In desperation I tried autoextend. Knock on wood, haven't had any runaway incidents in maybe 3 years.

   I don't autoextend system or temp tablespaces. I don't feel there is much advantage to autoextend with a maxsize. Just one more lurking limit to get hammered by.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Niall Litchfield [mailto:n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:27 AM To: Rich.Jesse_at_quadtechworld.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: RE: LMT ASSM & next extent

Hi Rich

It wasn't so much a serious question of what are the commands - I knew df -k and the windows stuff, it was if you set autoextend on and monitor *database* growth then you (or the sysadmin if separate) also need to consider the free space on the file system. If you have Oracle datafiles growing intermittently and unpredictably (I liked your K/M confusion example (I *think* we can have G from 9.2 as well) AND other stuff going on on the OS it's a recipe for disaster.=20

At least with fixed datafile sizes (either fixed or max) then you *know* what Oracle is doing,a dnyou should be able to do nice trend reporting ahead of time. Always best to fix problems before they happen. There is another advantage of fixed datafile sizes, namely if they are all the same size moving them around to balance IO becomes a lot easier.=20

cheers=20

Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
Audit Commission
+44 117 975 7805=20

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> Sent: 11 February 2004 14:50
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>=20
>=20

> "df -k" on most Unixes
> "bdf" on HP/UX (although "df -k" will still work)
> "show dev d" on VMS.
> double click "My Computer" on Winders.
>=20

> Rich
>=20

> Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
> rich.jesse_at_quadtechworld.com QuadTech, Sussex, WI USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niall Litchfield [mailto:n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk]
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>=20

> How do you tell how full the file system is?
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