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From: Jesse, Rich <>
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:39:34 -0800
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Actually, no. If we had any Oracle servers on Windohs, I would only feel comfortable with TightVNC server on it, and even then I would insist on no more than 800x600 and 256 colors (hopefully the Installer works with that!), due to the transmission overhead involved.

And if you can set up an Oracle server like that in your environment, all the more power to you! For us, there are strict pink-slip-generating rules for Windohs server setup because of the propogation of viruses and trojans thru MSexchange and MS Lookout. But we wouldn't have a single box with any combo of IIS, TS, AD, and/or PDC/SDC. I agree that it's bad karma.

As far as "business requirements" go, we have a requirement for a certain amount of uptime and reliability. Oracle7 on Windohs could satisfy neither, and have no need to spend money to re-investigate this for newer versions of Oracle/Windohs.

I'd argue that X shouldn't be running on a Linux server running an Oracle instance, either, except perhaps while testing. Installs can be done on remote displays. And there's no reason for anyone to run an FTP server if you have SSH. Finally, my preference would be to separate out the Apache traffic as well, although Oracle doesn't exactly make that easy.

My $.02,

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


> Citrix Metaframe, rdesktop, and TightVNC help a
> bunch, too. :)

This is the biggest reason why people badmouth Windows for use with Oracle. You install Citrix MetaFrame on the same server as you run Oracle Database Server? Get real.

You probably have IIS, RRAS, IPSec, numerous file serving clients, Terminal Services configured as an app server (not remote administration) also. Its probably either a domain controller of Active Directory Server too.

Disable all of that crap, and just run Oracle on it. Better yet, remove it from your domain and disable NetBIOS, disable the server service. Use good hardware and good drivers and you will have no BSODs.

What business requirements does it serve to have all sorts of non-oracle services running (misconfigured, open) on an Oracle/Windows box ... that serve only to leave holes and consume resources?

Windows 2003 Server is a great start towards having most services secured or disabled by default. It still needs to be configured and maintained by a competent admin (loaded string there).

My Oracle/Linux box here is just running an oracle instance, ssh, apache (over SSL) and Xserver only on loopback. No ftp, samba, nfs, etc. The TNS listener is only running on loopback. Enable only the services that you require, whether its *nix or win.



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